conradkriel
New member
- Joined
- Apr 19, 2016
- Messages
- 8
Hi Guys
I am new to the forum so hello from the UK! i need your help please!! I bought a les paul traditonal 2 years ago as it was my dream guitar! Since i got it i have NOT been able to get decent tone out of the bridge pickup.
ME:
Average player who gigs at least once every wekeend to second weekend.
STYLE OF MUSIC :
Rock and hard rock
GUITAR:
Les paul Traditional 2016 (no robot tuners etc)
Arrives with 57 and 57+ PUPS
STRINGS:
Ernie ball hybrids (9-46)
PICK
Dunlop sharkfin (the black one - very hard)
AMPS:
Orange Rockerverb Mark 3 head (50watt)
Victory Kraken
Victory V130
Marshall JCM 800 (2203 from 1981- so a plexi essentially)
Orange Micro terro (20watts) backup head
PEDALS
All true bypass and high quality (no behringer etc)
CABLES:
All new
PICKUPS :
Guitar came with 57 and 57+ (i foudn the 57 too bassy and muddy) and thought the 57+ lacked balls - did not cut in a band contect - great by itself but not in the mix
NECK (in the guitar currently)
Irongear blues engine in the neck (Alnico 4) 7.4K output - I CAN GET SWEET BEAUTIFUL CLEAN AND BLUES TONES OUT OF THIS PICKUP- its bit bassy (but so was the 57 in this guitar)
BRIDGE (in the guitar currently)
Bareknuckle black dog (9.4) Alnico 5 - lovely mid range sound pickup
(HAVE TRIED THESE IN THE BRIDGE AS WELL)
Suhr Doug Aldrich (A5 17.5 ) but it was too hot for me so swapped into
bareknuckle abraxas (14k) alnico 4 - bautiful - harmonic and articulate but still too hot
THE PROBLEM
No matter what i do i find that my tone on the bridge is very metallic , harsh and thin (given i have tried all the above pickups - i'm not sure what the issues could be) -
1) THE TONE sounds the same with every amp i own.
2) I have played direct to the amp (no pedals) ,
3) i have tried all my different types of amps,
4) i have switched pickups
5) I have tired lowering and increasing pickup height (BIT NOT EXTENSIVELY!)
THINGS I HAVE NOT TRIED YET:
1) Different softer pick
2) Different strings
3) Lowering the pole pices on the pickup
4) Going back to the lower output 57+ and trying all of the above
5) On the neck pickup - lowering pole pieces to reduce the bass of the pickup
What is your expert opinion guys and girls? This is my dream guitar and i REALLY DO NOT WANT TO SELL IT!
I am new to the forum so hello from the UK! i need your help please!! I bought a les paul traditonal 2 years ago as it was my dream guitar! Since i got it i have NOT been able to get decent tone out of the bridge pickup.
ME:
Average player who gigs at least once every wekeend to second weekend.
STYLE OF MUSIC :
Rock and hard rock
GUITAR:
Les paul Traditional 2016 (no robot tuners etc)
Arrives with 57 and 57+ PUPS
STRINGS:
Ernie ball hybrids (9-46)
PICK
Dunlop sharkfin (the black one - very hard)
AMPS:
Orange Rockerverb Mark 3 head (50watt)
Victory Kraken
Victory V130
Marshall JCM 800 (2203 from 1981- so a plexi essentially)
Orange Micro terro (20watts) backup head
PEDALS
All true bypass and high quality (no behringer etc)
CABLES:
All new
PICKUPS :
Guitar came with 57 and 57+ (i foudn the 57 too bassy and muddy) and thought the 57+ lacked balls - did not cut in a band contect - great by itself but not in the mix
NECK (in the guitar currently)
Irongear blues engine in the neck (Alnico 4) 7.4K output - I CAN GET SWEET BEAUTIFUL CLEAN AND BLUES TONES OUT OF THIS PICKUP- its bit bassy (but so was the 57 in this guitar)
BRIDGE (in the guitar currently)
Bareknuckle black dog (9.4) Alnico 5 - lovely mid range sound pickup
(HAVE TRIED THESE IN THE BRIDGE AS WELL)
Suhr Doug Aldrich (A5 17.5 ) but it was too hot for me so swapped into
bareknuckle abraxas (14k) alnico 4 - bautiful - harmonic and articulate but still too hot
THE PROBLEM
No matter what i do i find that my tone on the bridge is very metallic , harsh and thin (given i have tried all the above pickups - i'm not sure what the issues could be) -
1) THE TONE sounds the same with every amp i own.
2) I have played direct to the amp (no pedals) ,
3) i have tried all my different types of amps,
4) i have switched pickups
5) I have tired lowering and increasing pickup height (BIT NOT EXTENSIVELY!)
THINGS I HAVE NOT TRIED YET:
1) Different softer pick
2) Different strings
3) Lowering the pole pices on the pickup
4) Going back to the lower output 57+ and trying all of the above
5) On the neck pickup - lowering pole pieces to reduce the bass of the pickup
What is your expert opinion guys and girls? This is my dream guitar and i REALLY DO NOT WANT TO SELL IT!