The Fender Forum
NEW! LPF Facebook Page
NEW! LPF Instagram Page
Merchandise & Donations
NEW! Burst Serial Log Home Page
LPF Homesite
Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Results 41 to 80 of 88
  1. #41
    Les Paul Forum Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    Lubbock, TX
    Posts
    3,171

    Re: 1960 ES-345 - solution

    Doc, IF you want the out of phase relationship of the pickups in that guitar---as most stereo guitars' pickups are... then the solution would be to apply the effects to the Normal channel....voila! channels are in phase and the 345 into it would yield the out of phase sound when in the middle position. Or...if your guitar's pickups are in phase, then the results would be the big in phase sound.
    "As soon as man does not take his existence for granted, but beholds it as something unfathomably mysterious, thought begins." Albert Schweitzer

  2. #42
    Les Paul Forum Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2015
    Location
    Spring HIll, FL
    Posts
    31

    Re: 1960 ES-345 - solution

    Quote Originally Posted by Wally View Post
    Doc, IF you want the out of phase relationship of the pickups in that guitar---as most stereo guitars' pickups are... then the solution would be to apply the effects to the Normal channel....voila! channels are in phase and the 345 into it would yield the out of phase sound when in the middle position. Or...if your guitar's pickups are in phase, then the results would be the big in phase sound.
    ugh, only problem THERE is, i want the fender reverb on the pickup with the effects haha

  3. #43
    Les Paul Forum Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    Lubbock, TX
    Posts
    3,171

    Re: 1960 ES-345 - solution

    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorDox View Post
    ugh, only problem THERE is, i want the fender reverb on the pickup with the effects haha
    That is the beauty of it, Doc. Applying the effects to the Normal channel is what puts the two channels in phase because that Vibrato Ch has one more gain stage in it in the Reverb recovery circuit. versus only two gain stages in the Normal Ch preamp circuit. When the reverb is applied to the Normal channel, that establishes three preamp gain stages in both channels.
    "As soon as man does not take his existence for granted, but beholds it as something unfathomably mysterious, thought begins." Albert Schweitzer

  4. #44
    Les Paul Forum Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2015
    Location
    Spring HIll, FL
    Posts
    31

    Re: 1960 ES-345 - solution

    Quote Originally Posted by Wally View Post
    That is the beauty of it, Doc. Applying the effects to the Normal channel is what puts the two channels in phase because that Vibrato Ch has one more gain stage in it in the Reverb recovery circuit. versus only two gain stages in the Normal Ch preamp circuit. When the reverb is applied to the Normal channel, that establishes three preamp gain stages in both channels.
    now wait, i can still get reverb on the normal non vibrato side of the amp? I thought I couldnt. I tried that last week but there was nothing. now i guess if im using my guitar in the middle position then id be okay. I also never pllug in there so as long as I can get reverb, im fine. I dont do much with vibrato unless im by myself, doing bad Ry Cooder impressions

    l

  5. #45
    Les Paul Forum Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2015
    Location
    Spring HIll, FL
    Posts
    31

    Re: 1960 ES-345 - solution

    Quote Originally Posted by Wally View Post
    That is the beauty of it, Doc. Applying the effects to the Normal channel is what puts the two channels in phase because that Vibrato Ch has one more gain stage in it in the Reverb recovery circuit. versus only two gain stages in the Normal Ch preamp circuit. When the reverb is applied to the Normal channel, that establishes three preamp gain stages in both channels.
    or are you saying, mod the super reverb to get reverb on the normal channel?

  6. #46
    Les Paul Forum Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    Lubbock, TX
    Posts
    3,171

    Re: 1960 ES-345 - solution

    Yes, Doc....the effects can be applied to that Normal channel which adds a third gain stage to that channel which brings the two channels in phase. Then..plug in a stereo Gibson with OOP pickups--one to each channel of that SR or any other two channel reverb Fender that can be modded this way--- and the middle position on the selector switch on the guitar will give you both channels, each with a signal that is OOP to the other...voila...the two pickups together are less powerful, more articulate, and brighter together than if they were in phase. Some famous Les Paul was wired this way....OOP. I sometimes wonder if that player had heard a stereo Gibson and liked that OOP middle position????
    "As soon as man does not take his existence for granted, but beholds it as something unfathomably mysterious, thought begins." Albert Schweitzer

  7. #47
    Les Paul Forum Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2015
    Location
    Spring HIll, FL
    Posts
    31

    Re: 1960 ES-345 - solution

    For the record, heres a picture of my two.

    1960 ES 345 Stereo, factory hardtail.
    1970 335.


  8. #48
    Les Paul Forum Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2015
    Location
    Spring HIll, FL
    Posts
    31

    Re: 1960 ES-345 - solution

    Quote Originally Posted by Wally View Post
    Yes, Doc....the effects can be applied to that Normal channel which adds a third gain stage to that channel which brings the two channels in phase. Then..plug in a stereo Gibson with OOP pickups--one to each channel of that SR or any other two channel reverb Fender that can be modded this way--- and the middle position on the selector switch on the guitar will give you both channels, each with a signal that is OOP to the other...voila...the two pickups together are less powerful, more articulate, and brighter together than if they were in phase. Some famous Les Paul was wired this way....OOP. I sometimes wonder if that player had heard a stereo Gibson and liked that OOP middle position????
    Okay I got you, im going to start planning this mod, or take it to a friend. Im definitely frustrated with it overall, just havent got it situated with my rig yet. First time in 12 months that ive missed my blues breakers marshall

  9. #49
    Les Paul Forum Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    Lubbock, TX
    Posts
    3,171

    Re: 1960 ES-345 - solution

    Doc, one or both of those channels can be revoiced during the process to yield a hotter channel that exhibits less of a mid-scoop. I like to do this for versatility. However, if one wants to run a 345 in stereo, the two channels need to as much alike as possible, imho. So, IF one liked that middier, hotter thing that the 5F6A/Marshall Blues Breaker circuit does, both channels could be taken in that direction.
    My '66 is like a blend of your two guitars....beautiful cherry red with a trapeze tailpi3ce.
    "As soon as man does not take his existence for granted, but beholds it as something unfathomably mysterious, thought begins." Albert Schweitzer

  10. #50
    Les Paul Forum Member johnnyslim's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2001
    Location
    Fairport, NY
    Posts
    1,116

    Re: 1960 ES-345 - solution

    Quote Originally Posted by CDaughtry View Post
    Yank the varitone and thank me later.
    What Charlie said. I got a 1961 ES-345 that sounded great. I tried a single cable that would hit both notches in the jack to "make it mono". It worked but in the end I pulled the varitone out. Just let me say...those 1961 PAF's became completely different animals with the varitone out.
    Winning isn't everything...but losing isn't anything.

  11. #51

    Re: 1960 ES-345 - solution

    The box solution to the middle position both pickups together on an 1959 60 es 345 is an interesting idea.. The y cable is cumbersome and probably not the best way to do stereo. Instead it's possible to have one stereo to stereo cable and with an option to select mono or stereo in phase or out of phase.

    Maybe someone post a diagram showing how we can wire a stereo output lead to stereo input jack to a box with a phase switch that electrically reverses one pickup so as to you having a choice of in phase or out of phase sound in middle position without the need to mess around reversing magnets and locking you to in or out of phase choice. Does this make sense or is it gobbledegook?

  12. #52
    Les Paul Forum Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Posts
    2,092

    Esseries Re: 1960 ES-345 - solution

    Quote Originally Posted by Wally View Post
    Very sharp guitar you have there, 57Gold.
    Yup, just had the same Varitonectomy performed on my First Rack 1959 ES-345T. Similarly, the zebra PAFs now perform to their full potential in addition to guitar weight loss! Cheers! RAB

  13. #53

    Re: 1960 ES-345 - solution

    I thought this was an interesting video on youtube where the true bypass versus varitone bypass are compared. What do you think?


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvuwQmKSQwE

    Of course the OOP issue is another point however but...

  14. #54
    Les Paul Forum Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2015
    Location
    Spring HIll, FL
    Posts
    31

    Re: 1960 ES-345 - solution

    So I was having a jack issue with my 1960 345. So I took it into the shop and ended Up having to get a bunch of stuff rewired due to massive wire deterioration. Anyways, the varitone is REMOVED now but still out of phase in the middle. So upon taking it home, i plugged her on up and man she sounds great. I feel like there is less coloring off my tone. I’ll know more Friday after band practice but I do notice a difference without the varitone hooked up. It’s really great, and it’s a pound lighter. Also got it setup and now there’s way more sustain too. I’d say with a good setup, and the varitone being removed, my 345 feels way different and sounds better.

    The varitone I do like but found I wasn’t using it much. So I put a push pull pot on one of the tones and it’s hooked up for putting it back in phase when engaged. But there’s a buzz on that setting which is no big deal.

    Varitone is great but I do notice a difference without it.
    Last edited by DoctorDox; 03-05-19 at 11:29 AM.

  15. #55
    Les Paul Forum Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    Lubbock, TX
    Posts
    3,171

    Re: 1960 ES-345 - solution

    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorDox View Post
    So I was having a jack issue with my 1960 345. So I took it into the shop and ended. Up having to get a bunch of stuff rewired due to massive wore deterioration. Anyways, y varitone is REMOVED now but still out of phase in the middle. So upon taking it home, i plugged her on up and man she sounds great. I feel like there is less coloring off my tone. Iíll know more Friday after band practice but I do notice a difference without the varitone hooked up. Itís resllt great, and itís a pound lighter. Also got it setup and now thereís way more sustain too. Iíd say with a good setup, a d the varitone being removed, my 345 feels way different and sounds better.

    The varitone I do like but found I wasnít using it much. So I put a push pull pot on one of the tones and itís hooked up for putting it back in phase when engaged. But thereís a buzz on that setting which is no big deal.

    Varitoe is great but I do notice a difference without it.
    Regarding that phase switch......if they did not remove the cover from the pickup for which that switch is flipping the leads, then that is the source of your noise. The cover has to be removed and the connection of that one lead that is connected to the braided shield needs to be separated from the braided shield. The shield goes to ground while those two leads go to that switch.
    "As soon as man does not take his existence for granted, but beholds it as something unfathomably mysterious, thought begins." Albert Schweitzer

  16. #56
    Les Paul Forum Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2015
    Location
    Spring HIll, FL
    Posts
    31

    Re: 1960 ES-345 - solution

    Quote Originally Posted by Wally View Post
    Regarding that phase switch......if they did not remove the cover from the pickup for which that switch is flipping the leads, then that is the source of your noise. The cover has to be removed and the connection of that one lead that is connected to the braided shield needs to be separated from the braided shield. The shield goes to ground while those two leads go to that switch.
    Makes sense, im not too concerned because knocking the middle back into phase isnt really what I look for. I love the out of phase middle so im totally content. Is that something that would be basically tearing the PAF apart? If so id probably leave that to Joe Glaser in nashville. How hard of an operation is this?

  17. #57
    Les Paul Forum Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    Lubbock, TX
    Posts
    3,171

    Re: 1960 ES-345 - solution

    Dox, yes, the cover has to be taken off in order to get to the connecti9n for the winding from the braid. A wire has to be added to that end of the winding. That way, the shield ground is separated from the winding and one can treat the winding as needed. I personally would not do this to an intact PAF......and B.B. King for one used that OOP position to great effect. And Greenie was modded to yield the same thing....so some folks like OOP. Fwiw, Gibson is using OOP middle position in many of their recent guitars, ime.
    "As soon as man does not take his existence for granted, but beholds it as something unfathomably mysterious, thought begins." Albert Schweitzer

  18. #58
    Les Paul Forum Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Posts
    3,555

    Re: 1960 ES-345 - solution

    Quote Originally Posted by tooold View Post
    Blackface or silverface Fenders are out-of-phase between the two channels - you could do what you're trying on a tweed, but not a Super Reverb.

    Stereo to mono will cause tone suck, as you found. You're essentially creating a stereo-to-mono mixer without the resistor network mixing consoles use.

    Check that your stereo-to-Y isn't a headphone (three-conductor to three-conductor) splitter, just to make sure. If it is stereo to two x mono, you could try opening up the cable and swapping the two hot leads so you'd have the outputs from the guitar out-of-phase, then you might be able to use it in two channels of the SR.

    A nice 345 is one of the few guitars that still gets me wanting. But if I got one, the Varitone would come out immediately. Some people love them, but for everybody else...
    One note: Only the BF/SF reverb Fender amps have the channels out of phase. The amps without reverb have channels in phase.
    Al

  19. #59
    Les Paul Forum Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2015
    Location
    Spring HIll, FL
    Posts
    31

    Re: 1960 ES-345 - solution

    Quote Originally Posted by Wally View Post
    Dox, yes, the cover has to be taken off in order to get to the connecti9n for the winding from the braid. A wire has to be added to that end of the winding. That way, the shield ground is separated from the winding and one can treat the winding as needed. I personally would not do this to an intact PAF......and B.B. King for one used that OOP position to great effect. And Greenie was modded to yield the same thing....so some folks like OOP. Fwiw, Gibson is using OOP middle position in many of their recent guitars, ime.
    Yeah the guitars too nice to tear apart a PAF for no reason, I literally used the OOP probably 85% of the time or more so IM pretty content.

  20. #60
    Les Paul Forum Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    Lubbock, TX
    Posts
    3,171

    Re: 1960 ES-345 - solution

    Quote Originally Posted by zombiwoof View Post
    One note: Only the BF/SF reverb Fender amps have the channels out of phase. The amps without reverb have channels in phase.
    Al
    Al, fwiw there are other Fender amps that have the channels out of phase. The AA864 and AA165 BAssman amps for instance. Both of these amps have 3 gain stages in the BAss channel and two gain stages in the Normal channel. The AB165 BAssman and all later BAssman amps have equal numbers of gain stages in each channel....and the channels thereby are in phase.
    Somewhere back in my GP mags there is an article detailing a slight mod to deal with the problem the stereo rigs have when running in mono. IT is the simple moving of one resistor from one place in the circuit to another, iirc.
    "As soon as man does not take his existence for granted, but beholds it as something unfathomably mysterious, thought begins." Albert Schweitzer

  21. #61
    Les Paul Forum Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2018
    Posts
    3

    Re: 1960 ES-345 - solution

    There are a few reasons why the stereo varitone circuit is silly, and then three extrasilly reasons when you attempt to combine them to mono.

    Firstly the obvious out of phase issue when pickups are combined, this can be corrected by flipping the magnet in either pickup, okay some people like it out of phase, but most don't.

    Second, the 500k volume pots are wired right at the end of the signal path as they go to the output jack, when you jumper these together to mono, either in the guitar or via any type of Y cord or jumper box, they interact with each other and both volumes affect both pickups regardless of the pickup selection, the mono varitone and 335 are not wired this way, they have the volume pots as the first component the pickups go to, before the selector switch, and they remain independent unless both pickups are selected.

    Thirdly and most important, as a result of the volume arrangement above, the 500k pots are effectively now 250k as they are now in parallel, and this is the 'tone suck' that is experienced when doing the mono jumpering. You may know that folks take the 300k pots out of early 80s dot reissue 335s to replace them with 500ks, similar scene, but worse.
    Added to this, when the varitone is engaged, each pickups signal goes through a 100k resistor on the way thru the varitone to the volume pots, further inhibiting signal.

    I recommend anyone interested in abandoning this arrangement, to try a new harness made up in this circuit I have seen posted here before, with one further mod http://storage.canalblog.com/70/58/274546/17141044.gif
    This is the mono varitone, based on the 335 style arrangement of volume and tone pots, the mod illustrated in here is that the switch used is a 2-pole 6 position rotary switch, with the second pole used to activate a true bypass for position 1. This type of switch is easy to get and so are the capacitors used, and you will reuse one of the two existing chokes. My only one further suggestion is to leave out the 10meg resistors entirely.

  22. #62

    Re: 1960 ES-345 - solution

    In defence of the Varitone. I love my 66 345 for its unique palette of tones.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/10bF...NyulphYUF/view

  23. #63
    Les Paul Forum Member deytookerjaabs's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2016
    Location
    Nashville
    Posts
    1,237

    Re: 1960 ES-345 - solution

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/10bF...NyulphYUF/view



    Here's an article, with video link, that Scott from BMF effects wrote on the Varitone circuit along with his various solutions. He builds an "ES Box" that ain't cheap but I opted to take the plunge and will report back after it arrives.

  24. #64

    Re: 1960 ES-345 - solution

    Quote Originally Posted by deytookerjaabs View Post
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/10bF...NyulphYUF/view



    Here's an article, with video link, that Scott from BMF effects wrote on the Varitone circuit along with his various solutions. He builds an "ES Box" that ain't cheap but I opted to take the plunge and will report back after it arrives.
    I'm looking forward to your report! Thanks!

    Are you able share the price you paid for the box?

  25. #65
    Les Paul Forum Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    Lubbock, TX
    Posts
    3,171

    Re: 1960 ES-345 - solution

    Quote Originally Posted by Flogger View Post
    In defence of the Varitone. I love my 66 345 for its unique palette of tones.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/10bF...NyulphYUF/view
    Thanks for that link....good stuff. And...the 1966 ES-345 I bought new in June, 1967 sounds best just as he says.....through a true stereo set-up.
    "As soon as man does not take his existence for granted, but beholds it as something unfathomably mysterious, thought begins." Albert Schweitzer

  26. #66
    Les Paul Forum Member deytookerjaabs's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2016
    Location
    Nashville
    Posts
    1,237

    Re: 1960 ES-345 - solution

    Quote Originally Posted by brandtkronholm View Post
    I'm looking forward to your report! Thanks!

    Are you able share the price you paid for the box?


    Oh, $159 plus shipping IIRC. As a former do-it-yourselfer I just don't spend much time on projects anymore or I'd have attempted a build, lol. Hopefully it gets here in the next day or two, definitely hoping to have it for a friday night show. Will give my best synopsis when I can!

  27. #67

    Re: 1960 ES-345 - solution

    Quote Originally Posted by deytookerjaabs View Post
    Oh, $159 plus shipping IIRC. As a former do-it-yourselfer I just don't spend much time on projects anymore or I'd have attempted a build, lol. Hopefully it gets here in the next day or two, definitely hoping to have it for a friday night show. Will give my best synopsis when I can!
    Thanks! I'm looking forward to it.

  28. #68
    Les Paul Forum Member deytookerjaabs's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2016
    Location
    Nashville
    Posts
    1,237

    Re: 1960 ES-345 - solution

    Quote Originally Posted by brandtkronholm View Post
    Thanks! I'm looking forward to it.

    Got it in the mail this afternoon about 10 minutes before leaving for a gig. I took the pedal and the Freddie, they performed admirably! The volume loss on the varitone is much more bearable and really important for me is the LED was still bright via battery after the 4 hour set...I loathe short battery life. I'll take some pics etc in the next couple days. Bottom line, it was like a normal guitar and to me I preferred running the pedal stereo to mono than running a stereo cable into the two channels of the amp which I is what I did last week. It looks real sturdy too and it has those hand screws so you can replace the battery without needing a screwdriver.


    So far.....10/10. But I'll try to add pics etc soon.

  29. #69
    Les Paul Forum Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Posts
    1,307

    Re: 1960 ES-345 - solution

    I hope this works great. I have just been using the Freddie with the plug half in. Will this sound better?

  30. #70

    Re: 1960 ES-345 - solution

    Quote Originally Posted by deytookerjaabs View Post
    Got it in the mail this afternoon about 10 minutes before leaving for a gig. I took the pedal and the Freddie, they performed admirably! The volume loss on the varitone is much more bearable and really important for me is the LED was still bright via battery after the 4 hour set...I loathe short battery life. I'll take some pics etc in the next couple days. Bottom line, it was like a normal guitar and to me I preferred running the pedal stereo to mono than running a stereo cable into the two channels of the amp which I is what I did last week. It looks real sturdy too and it has those hand screws so you can replace the battery without needing a screwdriver.


    So far.....10/10. But I'll try to add pics etc soon.
    Very cool. I think I'll get one in the coming months... I'm looking forward to the pictures.

  31. #71
    Les Paul Forum Member deytookerjaabs's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2016
    Location
    Nashville
    Posts
    1,237

    Re: 1960 ES-345 - solution

    Nothing too gnarly about the cosmetics:





    It was explained to me that it "fools the guitar into thinking the signal is stereo" so you don't get certain bits of frequency summing/cancelling. Scott can explain it better than I if you shoot him an email, nice guy, quick shipping, great service, etc. I've used it again the past few days and oh I'm so glad I bought it, haha. The mono/stereo switch is for if you're plugging in the stereo guitar with TRS cable then if you want to switch to a regular guitar you can.

  32. #72

    Re: 1960 ES-345 - solution

    Could you post pictures of the sides (input/outputs) please?

    Thanks!

    (I think I'll be ordering one in a few weeks!)

  33. #73
    Les Paul Forum Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Posts
    1,307

    Re: 1960 ES-345 - solution

    Forgive my iganance,but in this thread does it tell where to get this box?

  34. #74
    Les Paul Forum Member deytookerjaabs's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2016
    Location
    Nashville
    Posts
    1,237

    Re: 1960 ES-345 - solution

    Here's the sides







    There's not a direct link up yet as the pedal is new but to get one I'd go to bmfeffects.com>menu>contact and message Scott who said he recently got a batch in. I'm sure he'll get a link up soon.

  35. #75

    Re: 1960 ES-345 - solution

    [QUOTE=deytookerjaabs;2832208]Here's the sides





    Ok, so stereo in and mono out. Got it.

    I'mma git one.

  36. #76

    Re: 1960 ES-345 - solution

    Quote Originally Posted by deytookerjaabs View Post
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/10bF...NyulphYUF/view



    Here's an article, with video link, that Scott from BMF effects wrote on the Varitone circuit along with his various solutions. He builds an "ES Box" that ain't cheap but I opted to take the plunge and will report back after it arrives.
    Are you able to provide contact info for Scott (or whomever) at BMF effects for me please? I filled out their online contact info page last week and haven't heard back yet. (Or is patience required here?)

    Thanks!

  37. #77
    Les Paul Forum Member deytookerjaabs's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2016
    Location
    Nashville
    Posts
    1,237

    Re: 1960 ES-345 - solution

    Quote Originally Posted by brandtkronholm View Post
    Are you able to provide contact info for Scott (or whomever) at BMF effects for me please? I filled out their online contact info page last week and haven't heard back yet. (Or is patience required here?)

    Thanks!

    Hmm, he was real quick to respond but the website might be a different thing or he's waiting a minute to get the stuff up for sale officially, who knows. If you have a TGP account (it's free!) you can PM his user name "BMF Effects" which is how I got a hold of him after reading that article.


    Update, I'm still on the stock battery:





  38. #78

    Re: 1960 ES-345 - solution

    Ok, thanks for the info!

  39. #79
    Les Paul Forum Member
    Join Date
    May 2019
    Location
    Los Angeles
    Posts
    3

    Re: 1960 ES-345 - solution

    Quote Originally Posted by deytookerjaabs View Post
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/10bF...NyulphYUF/view Here's an article, with video link, that Scott from BMF effects wrote on the Varitone circuit along with his various solutions. He builds an "ES Box" that ain't cheap but I opted to take the plunge and will report back after it arrives.
    Hey guys, hope all is well. Thanks for @deytookerjabs for mentioning the ES-Box but I do need to clarify that I did not write the article. I've been a Varitone fan and have been mildly obsessed with the "how's and why's" for a long time. My Dad sent me the article years ago and I decided to revisit it when I got my CS Freddie King. The end result was the ES-Box which I had intended to build just for myself but the smallest amount of PCB's I could order was five, so there ended up being some extra ones which all sold and we're on the second batch. If I can answer any questions, please feel free to message me.

    Quote Originally Posted by brandtkronholm View Post
    Are you able to provide contact info for Scott (or whomever) at BMF effects for me please? I filled out their online contact info page last week and haven't heard back yet. (Or is patience required here?)

    Thanks!
    @brandtkronholm...I didn't receive anything via the website so I'll open up a trouble ticket with the hosting company but I did reply to your message on The Gear Page. I try to (and generally do) reply within 24 hours so if you don't hear from me, then something got lost along the way.

  40. #80
    Les Paul Forum Member deytookerjaabs's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2016
    Location
    Nashville
    Posts
    1,237

    Re: 1960 ES-345 - solution

    Quote Originally Posted by BMF Effects View Post
    Hey guys, hope all is well. Thanks for @deytookerjabs for mentioning the ES-Box but I do need to clarify that I did not write the article.


    My bad! I got a bit confused there, great article that any 345'er should read regardless, lol.


    So mine ain't a first batch? Uhg, I guess it'll never be worth a massive tone nostalgia upcharge in 20 years, I'll just have to settle using my lowly second batcher

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  


Scroll Down And Click On All Of Our Sponsors' Logos For Their Websites!






i