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    Re: Which new pots most like a vintage centralab?

    I just bought a set of VIPots and harness to go into one of my guitars. These will be joined by some new Wizz Premium PAF's. I'm really stoked about this mod and hope it will take my guitar to the next level! I'll try and update soon!
    Game on!

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    Re: Which new pots most like a vintage centralab?

    Hello everyone,

    Hope someone can help with this.
    I've acquired 2 Centralab 500k pots from an old amp dated 1958 with C3 code which I'm told is the taper.
    Is there much difference from a C2 for guitar?
    They measure 525 and 667.

    Thanks

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    Re: Which new pots most like a vintage centralab?

    Quote Originally Posted by rick57 View Post
    Hello everyone,

    Hope someone can help with this.
    I've acquired 2 Centralab 500k pots from an old amp dated 1958 with C3 code which I'm told is the taper.
    Is there much difference from a C2 for guitar?
    They measure 525 and 667.

    Thanks
    I could be mistaken but I think the C2 taper is the old school 70/30 audio taper, i.e. the desirable vintage taper. The C3 is a steeper audio taper more akin to standard CTS, etc. pots.

    You could always pop a knob on it to get some idea of position and meter the pot on the travel from 1-10 and plot that to see for sure.
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    Re: Which new pots most like a vintage centralab?

    Quote Originally Posted by rick57 View Post
    I've acquired 2 Centralab 500k pots from an old amp dated 1958 with C3 code which I'm told is the taper.
    Is there much difference from a C2 for guitar?
    Yes, there is much difference from a C2 taper. The C2 taper is the "classic" audio/log taper, while the C3 taper is the reverse audio/log taper. You basically get the opposite of what the C2 tapered pots do.

    Here's a graph I found on the internet that gives you a rough idea what that means



    BTW, today, I recorded a short sound clip to demo the taper of our VIPots. Neck pickup (VIP Honeybucker) of a 335-style guitar I built myself with VIPots and a .018 µF PIO cap. The bits are recorded with the volume at 10, 8, 6, and 3. It's pretty cool to hear how the clarity and dynamics are retained! No treble bleed or other tricks used ...

    https://soundcloud.com/vintageinspir...s/vipots-taper

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    Re: Which new pots most like a vintage centralab?

    Quote Originally Posted by EpiLP1985 View Post
    I could be mistaken but I think the C2 taper is the old school 70/30 audio taper, i.e. the desirable vintage taper. The C3 is a steeper audio taper more akin to standard CTS, etc. pots.

    You could always pop a knob on it to get some idea of position and meter the pot on the travel from 1-10 and plot that to see for sure.
    Thanks

    I'm not liking the taper. Not much difference from 6-10 with the C3.
    I lost the boost I would get around 8 that I was getting from the Gibson Historic pots I had.
    Waiting on some VIP's.

  6. #246

    Re: Which new pots most like a vintage centralab?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChevChelios View Post
    Yes, there is much difference from a C2 taper. The C2 taper is the "classic" audio/log taper, while the C3 taper is the reverse audio/log taper. You basically get the opposite of what the C2 tapered pots do.

    Here's a graph I found on the internet that gives you a rough idea what that means



    BTW, today, I recorded a short sound clip to demo the taper of our VIPots. Neck pickup (VIP Honeybucker) of a 335-style guitar I built myself with VIPots and a .018 µF PIO cap. The bits are recorded with the volume at 10, 8, 6, and 3. It's pretty cool to hear how the clarity and dynamics are retained! No treble bleed or other tricks used ...

    https://soundcloud.com/vintageinspir...s/vipots-taper

    The C3 taper is not doing it for me. Expecting some VIP's today.
    Thanks!

  7. #247

    Re: Which new pots most like a vintage centralab?

    Quote Originally Posted by rick57 View Post
    The C3 taper is not doing it for me. Expecting some VIP's today.
    Thanks!
    Installed VIP's and very satisfied with the feel and taper!

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    Re: Which new pots most like a vintage centralab?

    Quote Originally Posted by rick57 View Post
    Installed VIP's and very satisfied with the feel and taper!
    Good to hear that you like them! Just a quick note ... we're having a Black Friday Sale right now. 20% off everything $50 or more ...



    That's a great opportunity to stock up on some VIPots. Even pre-orders for the long shaft VIPots (ETA early December) are eligible.

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    Just because I got a few messages/questions from members: The new delivery of long shaft VIPots will arrive in a few days and pre-orders will ship as soon as possible.

    Until then, enjoy German vintage/tone gourmet Udo Pipper playing a Les Paul replica and nicely showcasing how well the VIPots work ...


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    Re: Which new pots most like a vintage centralab?

    I installed 4 VIP pots (all of them) in my R9 today and I could´nt be happier with the result! I had CTS TVT pots before and it was like pulling away a blanket. The guitar finally sings! The pu´s are Wizz by the way.

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    Re: Which new pots most like a vintage centralab?

    @lare65 Glad you like them! That's a comparison I've heard quite a bit ...

    The long shaft VIPots have finally arrived (just in time for 2019 !!!) and are available in my webshop again.

    Happy New Year everyone! And - due to the lack of a better place to say this - thanks so much to all the LPF members who have shared invaluable feedback on my pickups and VIPots over the years, but especially 2018, which has been an amazing year for Vintage Inspired Pickups!!! Thanks again

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    Re: Which new pots most like a vintage centralab?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChevChelios View Post
    @lare65 Glad you like them! That's a comparison I've heard quite a bit ...

    The long shaft VIPots have finally arrived (just in time for 2019 !!!) and are available in my webshop again.

    Happy New Year everyone! And - due to the lack of a better place to say this - thanks so much to all the LPF members who have shared invaluable feedback on my pickups and VIPots over the years, but especially 2018, which has been an amazing year for Vintage Inspired Pickups!!! Thanks again

    Nice, been waiting on the long shafts, just ordered some and can't wait!

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    Re: Which new pots most like a vintage centralab?

    Sebastian; I love the double tones Udo gets with your pickups! Even on my cheesy little iPad they sing! The Lover set I got for my 1960 Melody Maker into my Revival Drive and then my Marshall Astoria are wonderful!
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    Re: Which new pots most like a vintage centralab?

    I bought 2 sets of VIPs. They are pretty good, similar to the Dr. Vintage ones I had. I did have one VIP end up being no good and contacted them about it. They told me to just buy another one so I put the Dr. V back in. I don't really like having 2 different vol pots, but the cost of one with shipping is pretty steep. I read that it is best to turn the pots to 10 before soldering. I did have a Dr.V pot fail of years of playing and pick up swaps - he sent me 2 new ones in the mail without me even asking. Great customer service right there!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChevChelios View Post
    I've done the testing myself, re-soldering the VIPots five times in a 57 Les Paul wiring, switching positions every time (so that every pot got a good portion of heat to the cover) and all pots worked just fine. However: You'll have to turn them down to 0. If you keep them open or somewhere in between, you'll kill the trace when applying too much heat. Also, always use a chisel soldering tip and a 40+W iron. However, that's true for all pots.

    My logo on the back is not (just) cosmetic, it's also helping a lot with soldering the ground connections onto the cover. Aka, less heat exposure, less damage to the pot. I've only heard from one guy who burned a VIPot, and he had used a pencil soldering tip with an overpowered soldering station. When he used the "correct" heat and a chisel tip, it worked like a charm.



    Thick carbon traces = no. Easy(er) turning/torque like the originals (when they were new) = yes.
    Is it down to 0 or up to 10? (As you see it when you are playing the guitar).

  16. #256

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skydogfan81 View Post
    I bought 2 sets of VIPs. They are pretty good, similar to the Dr. Vintage ones I had. I did have one VIP end up being no good and contacted them about it. They told me to just buy another one so I put the Dr. V back in. I don't really like having 2 different vol pots, but the cost of one with shipping is pretty steep. I read that it is best to turn the pots to 10 before soldering.

    Sebastian wrote 0 in a previous post...but maybe he ment that on 10 the pot is out of circuit = 0?

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    Pots Re: Which new pots most like a vintage centralab?

    I would assume 10 is where the pot is more out of the way, where 0 would be in. Looks like the post was deleted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skydogfan81 View Post
    I did have one VIP end up being no good and contacted them about it. They told me to just buy another one ...
    First thanks for trying our VIPots, and sorry that one of them got fried during the installation. Since we don't have any control over who is going to install the pots (importantly, how experienced is that person?), and what equipment is used to install them, we had to add the following limitation to our website: "Please understand that there is no warranty on VIPots once touched by a soldering iron, as we cannot control how the VIPots are installed and exposed to heat during installation."
    Some customers/shops have installed dozens to hundreds of VIPots w/o frying a single pot, while (luckily very few) people unfortunately manage to kill one or two of their order.

    Mostly, frying/killing your pots can be avoided follwoing a few very simple rules ... a) turn the pot down to resistance 0, b) use a soldering iron with at least 40W - don't go for the cheap 10 - 20W irons, c) use a chisel tip and never, EVER use a pin point tip when soldering pots, d) wait until the iron is hot before you start soldering - all these will help with the main goal here: e) keep the time of heat exposure to a minimum.

    We have posted all of those tips on our website. It's really not hard so solder guitar electronics - I've probably put together 100+ harnesses/repairs/etc. and haven't fried a pot in the last 12 years. But in the end - if you're not feeling up to it, just let a good tech do the work. They also have to put food on the table ...

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    Re: Which new pots most like a vintage centralab?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChevChelios View Post
    First thanks for trying our VIPots, and sorry that one of them got fried during the installation. Since we don't have any control over who is going to install the pots (importantly, how experienced is that person?), and what equipment is used to install them, we had to add the following limitation to our website: "Please understand that there is no warranty on VIPots once touched by a soldering iron, as we cannot control how the VIPots are installed and exposed to heat during installation."
    Some customers/shops have installed dozens to hundreds of VIPots w/o frying a single pot, while (luckily very few) people unfortunately manage to kill one or two of their order.

    Mostly, frying/killing your pots can be avoided following a few very simple rules ... a) turn the pot down to resistance 0, b) use a soldering iron with at least 40W - don't go for the cheap 10 - 20W irons, c) use a chisel tip and never, EVER use a pin point tip when soldering pots, d) wait until the iron is hot before you start soldering - all these will help with the main goal here: e) keep the time of heat exposure to a minimum.

    We have posted all of those tips on our website. It's really not hard so solder guitar electronics - I've probably put together 100+ harnesses/repairs/etc. and haven't fried a pot in the last 12 years. But in the end - if you're not feeling up to it, just let a good tech do the work. They also have to put food on the table ...

    Just posting my experiences, no need to try and justify your actions (this isn't the place for that). I have been swapping pots for a some time without any tragedies (with all equipment you mentioned). You are also making an assumption that your pots are all perfect, which is statistically impossible.

    Since I have your attention, "turn pots to 0 resistance" does that mean turn them to volume 10 (in guitar speak)?
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    Re: Which new pots most like a vintage centralab?

    "turn pots to 0 resistance" does that mean turn them to volume 10 ?

    Ive never confused owning a bunch of high end gear with being some kind of a guitar player I'm a hack and I love guitars !

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    Re: Which new pots most like a vintage centralab?

    No, that means turn the pot to volume 0. If you use a multimeter and measure the kOhms, you'll see that it reads 0 when the "volume" is turned all the way down, and max when turned to 11 (or 10)

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    Re: Which new pots most like a vintage centralab?

    Thank you ! I purchased you VIP pots thanks for the fast shipping !!
    Ive never confused owning a bunch of high end gear with being some kind of a guitar player I'm a hack and I love guitars !

    He thinks the mirror is a photo of a clown ?

    The Myth: Neat wiring layouts always equate to great-sounding amps.

    The Myth: If I would have lived with MOM & mooched till I was 48 I would play like Clapton !
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    Re: Which new pots most like a vintage centralab?

    So far I've been pretty impressed with them. The variance in resistance has been well within the 15% tolerance and allowed me to custom sort a set for a recent build I did and better balance the neck and bridge pup for the customer. So far, he's been quite happy with them since we swapped 'em in.

    Aside from the taper, which is great if you're looking for the steep logarithmic fall off, the torque of the pot feels just like vintage pots; not too tight and not too loose. A concern I had knowing Bournes was the manufacturer; who typically makes excellent pots, just quite effortless turning pots. These are clearly spec'd differently.

    My only gripe with them is with the terminals length, they could have been a few mm taller so as to allow for easier, vintage style, bending of the terminal back onto the casing.



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    Re: Which new pots most like a vintage centralab?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skydogfan81 View Post
    I bought 2 sets of VIPs. They are pretty good, similar to the Dr. Vintage ones I had. I did have one VIP end up being no good and contacted them about it. They told me to just buy another one so I put the Dr. V back in. I don't really like having 2 different vol pots, but the cost of one with shipping is pretty steep. I read that it is best to turn the pots to 10 before soldering. I did have a Dr.V pot fail of years of playing and pick up swaps - he sent me 2 new ones in the mail without me even asking. Great customer service right there!
    Yeah, well Dr. V is out of business too..
    If you are Not use to soldering, then take it to someone. I solder at least 5-6 days a week. I use a Weller WLC100 Soldering Station with the temp setting on "8" to solder pots. I've never fried a pot solder putting one in a guitar. I've been soldering for 40+ years. If you don't solder on a daily basis or even a couple of times a week then take it to a tech!!
    I would never expect a company to replace any pot that I've soldered on for free. These pots are Not that expensive, about $8.00 each. Really for a "Custom Made" pot made to very specific specs, $8.00 is a bargain! The Canadian PEC pots are like $25.00 each and require a bit of extra work to install and CTS pots I don't really care for. You can always spend a $100. for a used Centralab pot..
    $3.80 for postage isn't much, especially since USPS Priority Mail runs around $7.00 these days. A replacement pair of pots with shipping is just under $20.00! I bet you blow that much at 7-11 everytime you go in..

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    Re: Which new pots most like a vintage centralab?

    Quote Originally Posted by TM1 View Post
    Yeah, well Dr. V is out of business too..
    If you are Not use to soldering, then take it to someone. I solder at least 5-6 days a week. I use a Weller WLC100 Soldering Station with the temp setting on "8" to solder pots. I've never fried a pot solder putting one in a guitar. I've been soldering for 40+ years. If you don't solder on a daily basis or even a couple of times a week then take it to a tech!!
    I would never expect a company to replace any pot that I've soldered on for free. These pots are Not that expensive, about $8.00 each. Really for a "Custom Made" pot made to very specific specs, $8.00 is a bargain! The Canadian PEC pots are like $25.00 each and require a bit of extra work to install and CTS pots I don't really care for. You can always spend a $100. for a used Centralab pot..
    $3.80 for postage isn't much, especially since USPS Priority Mail runs around $7.00 these days. A replacement pair of pots with shipping is just under $20.00! I bet you blow that much at 7-11 everytime you go in..
    Nah, I don't ever go to 7-11's. Sounds like Gibson is taking care of the need for aftermarket parts with the 2019 Custom shop line.
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    Re: Which new pots most like a vintage centralab?

    Just read this whole thread and wanted to chime in - especially since i havent found much info on TAOT pots here!

    I have CTS pots in my junior of some "vintagesque" variety - nothing wrong with them in general but in regards to the application discussed here in my opinion they do not have the same taper nor feeling in comparasion to vintage gibsons i´ve played. Sound wise they did open up that guitar alot in comparision to stock (going to 50s wiring might have a lot to do with the positive effect though).

    In my lester (.. well not my junior, my R8) i have a harness from Rand at JEL with TAOT 525k pots. These sound great - very open and really added something to the guitar. Again this might (or surely does) have to do with the fact that they are all 525k - the stock pots that came out all meausured below 500k... The TAOTs have an awesome taper with the typical "boost" from 8 to 10 - of course "great" dictates that is the kind of taper one wants in his/her pots. The vintage gibbos (that had stock pots intact) ive played all had that "extra push" from 8 - 10 and the TAOT pots capture that in my opinion. As for feeling when new I found them a bit to tight - i prefer loose but not sloppy, which brings me to my only concern with TAOT pots - quality.

    I might have gotten two duds but both my volumepots developed schratches after about 8-10 months - the bridge more severely so than the neck. Both right in that magic spot between 8-10! In fairness I do fiddle alot with pots when i play and i do play this particualr guitar alot but i still think its not up to snuff for pots to go bad that soon. Deoxit once in a while solves this and has also improved the feeling of the pots (making them looser). However - this is medicine and not a cure. Eventually (probably soon) they will go out and I will pop in some of those VIPpots. The two intact TAOT pots will probably go into the junior so thats all good.

    Also want to note that I have been in contact with Rand from JEL when the pots started developing the schratch and first we thought we were hunting a groundloop which Rand was VERY helpful with trying to solve. After a lot of tried remedies the problem seemed to have gone away but soon came back again. Rand did offer to send me new pots free of charge if it turned out to be a pot. I have not contacted him since to claim this very honest proposal since i would rather try something else instead of the TAOTs. No affilition - just dont want anyone to read the above as criticism against Rand and/or JEL - he does awesome harnesses and his cs is top notch in my opinion.

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    Re: Which new pots most like a vintage centralab?

    Quote Originally Posted by pippo View Post
    Just read this whole thread and wanted to chime in - especially since i havent found much info on TAOT pots here!

    I have CTS pots in my junior of some "vintagesque" variety - nothing wrong with them in general but in regards to the application discussed here in my opinion they do not have the same taper nor feeling in comparasion to vintage gibsons i´ve played. Sound wise they did open up that guitar alot in comparision to stock (going to 50s wiring might have a lot to do with the positive effect though).

    In my lester (.. well not my junior, my R8) i have a harness from Rand at JEL with TAOT 525k pots. These sound great - very open and really added something to the guitar. Again this might (or surely does) have to do with the fact that they are all 525k - the stock pots that came out all meausured below 500k... The TAOTs have an awesome taper with the typical "boost" from 8 to 10 - of course "great" dictates that is the kind of taper one wants in his/her pots. The vintage gibbos (that had stock pots intact) ive played all had that "extra push" from 8 - 10 and the TAOT pots capture that in my opinion. As for feeling when new I found them a bit to tight - i prefer loose but not sloppy, which brings me to my only concern with TAOT pots - quality.

    I might have gotten two duds but both my volumepots developed schratches after about 8-10 months - the bridge more severely so than the neck. Both right in that magic spot between 8-10! In fairness I do fiddle alot with pots when i play and i do play this particualr guitar alot but i still think its not up to snuff for pots to go bad that soon. Deoxit once in a while solves this and has also improved the feeling of the pots (making them looser). However - this is medicine and not a cure. Eventually (probably soon) they will go out and I will pop in some of those VIPpots. The two intact TAOT pots will probably go into the junior so thats all good.

    Also want to note that I have been in contact with Rand from JEL when the pots started developing the schratch and first we thought we were hunting a groundloop which Rand was VERY helpful with trying to solve. After a lot of tried remedies the problem seemed to have gone away but soon came back again. Rand did offer to send me new pots free of charge if it turned out to be a pot. I have not contacted him since to claim this very honest proposal since i would rather try something else instead of the TAOTs. No affilition - just dont want anyone to read the above as criticism against Rand and/or JEL - he does awesome harnesses and his cs is top notch in my opinion.

    /Jake
    Rand/Jackson Electronic Luthier has the best customer service by far! Incredibly helpful and incredibly generous. After frying some VIPots, he offered to replace the pots. Didn’t take him up on the offer...too generous an offer on something that was more likely my bad. He also called me to help troubleshoot a switch that want working. I had bent one of the contacts so the switch wasn’t working in the neck position. Rand also makes very affordable harnesses, especially the Sprague cap harnesses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JLee View Post
    Rand/Jackson Electronic Luthier has the best customer service by far! Incredibly helpful and incredibly generous. After frying some VIPots, he offered to replace the pots. Didn’t take him up on the offer...too generous an offer on something that was more likely my bad. He also called me to help troubleshoot a switch that want working. I had bent one of the contacts so the switch wasn’t working in the neck position. Rand also makes very affordable harnesses, especially the Sprague cap harnesses.

    Yep - Rand´s the man!

    How are you finding the VIP / sprauge combo? I have vitamin Q´s in the harness from Rand which I plan to salvage when I get som VIPs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pippo View Post
    Yep - Rand´s the man!

    How are you finding the VIP / sprauge combo? I have vitamin Q´s in the harness from Rand which I plan to salvage when I get som VIPs.
    Worked as advertised. No longer own the guitar, but great clean up with the volume. Not sure I heard a dramatic difference between the VIPots and my Creamtone vintage taper pots. As far as caps, the tonal differences between caps is lost on me. I have drifted Bees, Black Beauties and have had lots of Vit Qs. Can’t say I notice a difference.

    Going to be installing some VIPots in a couple guitars later today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pippo View Post
    Yep - Rand´s the man!

    How are you finding the VIP / sprauge combo? I have vitamin Q´s in the harness from Rand which I plan to salvage when I get som VIPs.
    I take back everything I said. Just installed some VIPots in my 2 80s Tokais. One had a Creamtone harness with drifted bees and their vintage taper CTS pots, while the other had Creamtone harness with metric CTS pots. Night and day on the VIPots vs metric CTS. Big improvement also from the CTS vintage taper to VIPots as well. The VIPots opened up the tone from 1-10. Really nice taper. Still detect a bit of treble roll off from 6/7 to 8, but much clearer than the Creamtones. Rode the volume pots all night. Have a ES-335 harness with Vit Qs on order from Rand for another Tokai.

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    Re: Which new pots most like a vintage centralab?

    I've installed 4 VIpots and 2 NOS Gudemann PIO's 2 weeks ago I got from vintage inspired.
    Very happy with them ! They made my '13 R8 just clearer over all.
    The original wiring harness gave a real bump around 7/8, like a extreme on/off switch.

    The Vipots are smoother around 7/8, yes it still has the jump there like the old guitars seem to do, but its no on/off moment.
    And the sound? My guitar just became clearer, a bit brighter. Yes we're talking small % but still, I didn't think it would be so noticeable.

    Originally I wanted to change out the pickups at the same time, but I'm going to leave the CustomBuckers in for a while because
    it all ready sounds so cool now.

    Mind you, I ride the volume control. I almost never play with the guitar on 10. If your that kind of player, maybe this wouldnt
    be that big of a difference..? But if its the old skool way of going at it, -> DO IT!

    *EDIT: off course I measured the pots when they came in, all 520K with one of 560K (which off course went into the volume neck position)

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    Re: Which new pots most like a vintage centralab?

    There's a very nice review of the VIPots in the current German Gitarre & Bass magazine by Udo Pipper. Highly recommended ...

    https://www.gitarrebass.de/heftarchi...di-9edjQCU6VMs

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    Pots Re: Which new pots most like a vintage centralab?

    Any chance of seeing these VIPots with DPDT switches? Push-pull or push-push, I’m not picky. I’d just like to also benefit from the “airy” headroomy clarity. Having recently installed a four-conductor set of ThroBaks and employed a JonesyBlues Jimmy Page harness, I’m finding the CTS pots’ clarity to be good, but not vintage Centralab good. I’m not sure how to explain it, I can just tell there’s some sparkle there that isn’t escaping into the instrument cable.

    Long (3/4”) or short (3/8”) shaft, both would actually fit, so I’m not picky there either. Just staying in the 500-550k split, knurled, Les Paul details would be fine. Really don’t wanna give up my coil tap, series/parallel, in/out of phase wackiness. So many tones, and VIPots could improve them all!

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    Re: Which new pots most like a vintage centralab?

    We just finished the development and started production of a line of 280k VIPots for Fender style guitars. But so far, there are no plans for push-pull VIPots, sorry.

    Here's a video of Joey Landreth, very nicely showcasing the qualities of the VIPots, starting at ~ 22:24 min



    He doesn't get everything right but you get the idea ...

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    Re: Which new pots most like a vintage centralab?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChevChelios View Post
    We just finished the development and started production of a line of 280k VIPots for Fender style guitars.
    That's great to hear!

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    Pots Re: Which new pots most like a vintage centralab?

    Any chance anyone knows of push-pull (or push-push) DPDT pots in the 500k-550k range that are clearer (a la Centralab) than the CTS pots seen everywhere? After reading this thread I had another critical listen to mine, and there’s definitely room for improvement.

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    Re: Which new pots most like a vintage centralab?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChevChelios View Post
    He doesn't get everything right but you get the idea ...
    Yeah, that’s mostly my fault. I think the problem is that I tend to go full on AVH with the details and I regurgitate an absurd amount of otherwise meaningless trivia, all of which he tries to recall in instances like this. Bit of a game of telephone.

    Bottom line; These pots blew me away, as well as Joey, as per the video.
    Take'er easy..............and if she's easy......just take'er!

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    Re: Which new pots most like a vintage centralab?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChevChelios View Post
    There's a very nice review of the VIPots in the current German Gitarre & Bass magazine by Udo Pipper. Highly recommended ...

    https://www.gitarrebass.de/heftarchi...di-9edjQCU6VMs
    My question is when will you make them with proper lugs/tabs?

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    Re: Which new pots most like a vintage centralab?

    I purposefully chose those lugs, as I find it a lot easier to fixate wire in them and to quickly solder them with as little solder as possible.

    In other news, production of Fender spec'd VIPots (split and solid shaft) has started! We'll have them ready for sale in a few months.

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    Re: Which new pots most like a vintage centralab?

    My good friend Nik Sevigny stopped by and had me perform a surgery on his '82 ES-335 ...


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