Long or transitional tenon?

aladdinsane · Apr 27, 2015

Hi everyone,

Wondering if anyone knows what this tenon is, long or transitional. It looks transitional to me, but I'm no expert...

Thanks!

Mark Kane · Apr 27, 2015

That could be long but I haven't seen one that squared off. I'm guessing that's a late '60's guitar. Some of the guys have seen a block glued in to the end of the tenon, could be what's going on there. I've not seen that myself though. Original 1960 LP's had a tad bit shorter tenon but I can't remember seeing one squared off like yours. Hopefully someone with more knowledge of these will hop on.

aladdinsane · Apr 27, 2015

Thanks, Mark. It's got a mid January 69 serial number with all 68 appointments, apparently, but the tenon was throwing me. I was considering pursuing it, but the 68 vs. 69 issue would affect the price for me...

Wilko · Apr 27, 2015

That looks to be a 68/69 guitar. No problem at all if all 68 features. The customs got all kind of changes, but some 1969 are "all 68". Check for one-piece body, one-piece neck, and 68 style cavity.

'69 cavity with show vintage style routing with a thin extra layer right between the body and the top.

For construction purposes a "transitional tenon" is just as good as a "long tenon". Technically they are the same. That term transitional started here at LPF.

FlyingFred67 · May 6, 2015

aladdinsane said:
Hi everyone,

Wondering if anyone knows what this tenon is, long or transitional. It looks transitional to me, but I'm no expert...

Thanks!

Hi, I have also a January 69 LPC showing the same Type of Transitional tenon as yours. What´s the Serial of yours?

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aladdinsane · May 6, 2015

It actually isn't mine, but I was considering buying it, so I was trying to get a proper date on it. I think the serial number was a 534 and the seller claimed that it shipped in January 1969. I know a lot of these are mixed up with transitional and long tenons, dot or no dot, etc. The seller said that it was a long tenon, but it looks transitional to me, or at least different from long tenons that I've seen.

How's yours? Does it have the fretless frets? I have '80 and '83 customs and a JP LPC, but I've been thinking about trying to get a real 68 or early 69.

Wilko · May 6, 2015

These are technically "long tenons"

That extra 1/2 inch in 1968 won't be found in '69 and doesn't make any difference

aladdinsane · May 6, 2015

Great to know! They don't look like transitional or the usual long ones I've seen, so that makes sense...

Progrocker111 · May 7, 2015

These are actually transitional long tenons. :laugh2:

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