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    Quote Originally Posted by fred dons View Post
    agree, if it was a refinish it must have been an old one, I remember when I first played it had that "old" smell and "feel" and knowing that the guy bought it relatively early and had it maintained by the same shop (which my friend bought) since the early 80ties nothing was done on the paint since
    Any idea what happened to the original pickup rings Fred?

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    Re: 9 1259

    Quote Originally Posted by landminelenny View Post
    So guitars actively being 'marketed' as bursts are legitimate guitars for discussion? Just want to be clear not to break the conditions of my probation.


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    Quote Originally Posted by landminelenny View Post
    Thanks Charlie. So guitars actively being 'marketed' as bursts are legitimate guitars for discussion? Just want to be clear not to break the conditions of my probation.
    Rich,

    As long as you aren't pumping and dumping them, you ought to be fine.

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    Re: 9 1259

    Quote Originally Posted by abalonevintage View Post
    Too many unknowns to even try.
    Yeah, you just can't do it with photos......

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    Re: 9 1259

    Quote Originally Posted by landminelenny View Post
    The seller doesn't think it's got a refinished top. He's sending me some more detailed pictures and if I like what I see and can negotiate a realistic selling price I'll pehaps go and look at it in person. I can do a trip there and back easily enough in less than a day. Maybe I'll see if Ray can come with me. Four eyes are better than two.
    If you end up buying it, does that mean this thread will get taken down?

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    Re: 9 1259

    Quote Originally Posted by Pat Boyack View Post
    Yeah, you just can't do it with photos......
    That's due to the lame photos.
    Enjoy that with my compliments. 🤠👍

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reno_1ted View Post
    If you end up buying it, does that mean this thread will get taken down?
    I doubt it. JC had his guitar featured as February's burst of the month while he was offering it for sale and that thread didn't get taken down.

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    Re: 9 1259

    Quote Originally Posted by landminelenny View Post
    I doubt it. JC had his guitar featured as February's burst of the month while he was offering it for sale and that thread didn't get taken down.
    If we had known that we would have taken down the thread. Let us know if you see this happening. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
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    Re: 9 1259

    Quote Originally Posted by landminelenny View Post
    Any idea what happened to the original pickup rings Fred?
    no sorry, but an this is a bit of a funny story, the guy who owns it lives in a small village where basically the population consists of fishermen or musicians or both, they share about 10 surnames amongst themselves (they did not take to well towards strangers in the old days) and they like everything to be new and shiny.
    I used to work in a guitarshop in that village and given a choice the customer always went for the most expensive guitar, not perhaps the best guitar, anyway when this guy left BZN ("the band without name" ) another guy took over as leadguitarist and the band bought his equipment. When he died some years ago the band decided to sell his gear however before doing so his guitars needed to be refurbished; all the hardware and electronics were thrown away, there were lucklily not pafs but t tops and other early seventies late hardware, everything was in working order but it did not look new anymore so it had to go
    So my guess is that he just replaced them at one point and threw the old ones away.
    The guy he bought it from was an active trader in bursts, as he had a choice of 3 bursts, that could have been Piets Visser who I know actively bought them out of Sweden at the time, but that is a guess from my side

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    Re: 9 1259

    Quote Originally Posted by landminelenny View Post
    I doubt it. JC had his guitar featured as February's burst of the month while he was offering it for sale and that thread didn't get taken down.

    If someone really wants to work the system, they'll get away with it a time or two. If in fact that's what JC did, I'm very disappointed.

    If your passive aggression is directed toward the fact that one of your threads got taken down, it's because you're a dealer and you were actively pumping and dumping on this Forum despite requests not to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDaughtry View Post
    If someone really wants to work the system, they'll get away with it a time or two. If in fact that's what JC did, I'm very disappointed.

    If your passive aggression is directed toward the fact that one of your threads got taken down, it's because you're a dealer and you were actively pumping and dumping on this Forum despite requests not to do so.
    Charlie I have no problem at all with my threads being taken down and I completely understand why the decision was made to do so.

    I posted the Dutch Burst thread because I thought it would be cool to share the latest photos and details of my trip to Holland with the forum. I was careful to not mention that the owner had asked me to help him find a buyer for the guitar and it is being advertised by the owner on his website.

    The '58 Junior I originally bought for myself. I only decided to sell it a few days later. Such is my dilemma being an enthusiast and a dealer always chasing something else. I don't mind my threads being taken down but it was a shame to lose the Dutch burst content but it's not an issue.

    In regards to the other matter, JC asked me to help him find a buyer for his burst during the February burst of the month thread was running and I believe he offered it to others and I'm surprised you weren't aware of this. So is that thread going to get taken down now or is it ok for members who aren't dealers to pump and dump? I'm not being passive aggressive, I just want to be clear.

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    Re: 9 1259

    Quote Originally Posted by landminelenny View Post
    So is that thread going to get taken down now or is it ok for members who aren't dealers to pump and dump? I'm not being passive aggressive, I just want to be clear.

    Not much point in taking it down now if the "dump" has already happened. Your two were taken down, because you had not yet, to our knowledge, dumped them. Furthermore, you are a dealer which complicates the matter even further. Simultaneously talking about how much you love the 59 Jr., while trying to sell it on Instagram, took the P & D art form to a whole 'nother level.
    I hope this clarifies the matter for you, as I wouldn't want you unnecessarily worrying about JC's Burst of the Month thread any longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDaughtry View Post
    Simultaneously talking about how much you love the 59 Jr., while trying to sell it on Instagram, took the P & D art form to a whole 'nother level.
    For the record and the sake of accuracy, it's a 58, not a 59 and it wasn't advertised for sale on instagram. I post LOTS of guitars on instagram. But really, it's not an issue.

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    Re: 9 1259

    Quote Originally Posted by landminelenny View Post
    I post LOTS of guitars on instagram. But really, it's not an issue.
    Yes...many dealers do. I'm glad it's not an issue though. Maybe now we can get back on topic.

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    Back on topic.








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    Is the shape of the burst right? Up near the neck pickup ring.

  18. #58

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldsongs View Post
    Is the shape of the burst right? Up near the neck pickup ring.
    It's faded on the left but not as much on the right because of the pickguard.

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    Larger images.











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    pix from '74 ...sportin speed knobs ...pearl grover tips ...naked pups.




    interesting that the headstock wear appears the same today as in '74 with no additional chips, etc.

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    not the greatest ...tried to knock a little brightness off ...but at least it is bigger

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    Re: 9 1259

    Thanks a lot for the new photos.

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    ..I musta searched over an hour to find the ones I posted ...hopefully someone enjoyed them

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    Quote Originally Posted by garywright View Post
    ..I musta searched over an hour to find the ones I posted ...hopefully someone enjoyed them
    Always enjoy and appreciate these archive photos..thanks for posting em Gary.
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    Re: 9 1259

    Quote Originally Posted by garywright View Post
    ..I musta searched over an hour to find the ones I posted ...hopefully someone enjoyed them
    I did Gary! Thanks!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by garywright View Post
    ..I musta searched over an hour to find the ones I posted ...hopefully someone enjoyed them
    Gary, it is great to have a reference from the 70s about this guitar... thanks a lot.

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    It's a nice looking guitar with good provenance IMO.

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    Re: 9 1259

    So if I read this post correctly, this is a 'player's guitar' that was totally stripped of vintage parts, possibly refinished or made shiny again, sold with '70s parts, and then was eventually bought by somebody who put vintage parts back on it?

    Quote Originally Posted by fred dons View Post
    no sorry, but an this is a bit of a funny story, the guy who owns it lives in a small village where basically the population consists of fishermen or musicians or both, they share about 10 surnames amongst themselves (they did not take to well towards strangers in the old days) and they like everything to be new and shiny.
    I used to work in a guitarshop in that village and given a choice the customer always went for the most expensive guitar, not perhaps the best guitar, anyway when this guy left BZN ("the band without name" ) another guy took over as leadguitarist and the band bought his equipment. When he died some years ago the band decided to sell his gear however before doing so his guitars needed to be refurbished; all the hardware and electronics were thrown away, there were lucklily not pafs but t tops and other early seventies late hardware, everything was in working order but it did not look new anymore so it had to go
    So my guess is that he just replaced them at one point and threw the old ones away.
    The guy he bought it from was an active trader in bursts, as he had a choice of 3 bursts, that could have been Piets Visser who I know actively bought them out of Sweden at the time, but that is a guess from my side

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    Re: 9 1259

    Quote Originally Posted by Rev.WillieVK View Post
    So if I read this post correctly, this is a 'player's guitar' that was totally stripped of vintage parts, possibly refinished or made shiny again, sold with '70s parts, and then was eventually bought by somebody who put vintage parts back on it?
    no you did not read this correctly, this guitar he had refretted at least twice and problably had pickup rings exchanged after 81, the shiny part is in reference to another les paul of the same band but is otherwise unrelated to this burst

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    Re: 9 1259

    The Japanese book from last year shows a different 9 1259...

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorglub! View Post
    The Japanese book from last year shows a different 9 1259...

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    Oups, that's funny .......

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorglub! View Post
    The Japanese book from last year shows a different 9 1259...

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    ....and I believe neither are the original, or correct, 9-1259.

    I was talking to the former owner of what I believe to be the original 9-1259 today, and it's an extremely distinctive guitar with provance going back to the very early 70's.

    Any other 9-1259's out there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by david plues View Post
    that's THE one

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    Quote Originally Posted by garywright View Post
    that's THE one
    It's a refin, and definitely renumbered.

    The genuine 9-1259 is a very distinctive guitar. Once seen, never forgotten.
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    The real 9 1259 on burstserial.com
    http://www.burstserial.com/index.php?/category/1105

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoss View Post
    The real 9 1259 on burstserial.com
    http://www.burstserial.com/index.php?/category/1105
    No, it's not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F-Hole View Post
    It's a refin, and definitely renumbered.

    The genuine 9-1259 is a very distinctive guitar. Once seen, never forgotten.
    If you say so

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    Quote Originally Posted by F-Hole View Post
    It's a refin, and definitely renumbered.

    The genuine 9-1259 is a very distinctive guitar. Once seen, never forgotten.
    Then, let's see it.
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