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    Les Paul Forum Member spidey's Avatar
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    Peter Green + Marshall = tone!!!

    Here's some audio of PG with John Mayall in '67.... Yikes, now that's tone!

    http://youtu.be/gtn5gZe5A5E

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    Re: Peter Green + Marshall = tone!!!

    Excellent! One can spend a good deal of time surfing that guy's Peter Green stuff. IME.
    If it sounds good, it is good.

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    Re: Peter Green + Marshall = tone!!!

    Woah! thanks for this- yeah, there's so many great videos of Greeny there!
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    Re: Peter Green + Marshall = tone!!!

    Thanks spidey !

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    Re: Peter Green + Marshall = tone!!!

    Never get tired of listening to Peter, and this early live stuff with Mayall is just beyond amazing. Notice that Peter played quite busy solos, and then became more laid back with Fleetwood Mac. Maybe it was the fact of filling Claptons shoes.. But it sounds great! That sounds like his Les Paul into a Marshall JTM45. Tone!
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    Re: Peter Green + Marshall = tone!!!

    That was fun to listen to, thanks for posting!

    It's interesting to consider what Green walked into, with the Bluesbreakers. Clapton, with Mayall, was pronounced "God" and then Peter has to fill those shoes.
    Everytime I hear the record, "A Hard Road", I always think what a perfect title for an album. It must've been a hard road for Green, lot to live up to there in EC's shadow.

    Hearing this clip, and thinking about that album, I can't help but also think that Peter was under orders... sound and play like you know who... because he does.
    His going to different amps, than Marshall's, makes total sense in light of what he had to do with the Bluesbreakers. His style became a bit more sparse, not as busy as the Mayall days, he really found his own style and voice later.
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    Re: Peter Green + Marshall = tone!!!

    Sounds awesome. Which Marshall was he using in that?
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    Block logo JTM45

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    Re: Peter Green + Marshall = tone!!!

    F'in nice!
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    Re: Peter Green + Marshall = tone!!!

    I've got the entire 5 CD set and it's Peter at his best. His rhythm section ain't bad either. John McVie and Mick Fleetwood.

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    Re: Peter Green + Marshall = tone!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by djdersh View Post
    I've got the entire 5 CD set and it's Peter at his best. His rhythm section ain't bad either. John McVie and Mick Fleetwood.
    What 5cd set?

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    Re: Peter Green + Marshall = tone!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by spidey View Post
    What 5cd set?
    +1!! A boxed set of live Mayall stuff with Green??!!
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    Re: Peter Green + Marshall = tone!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by djdersh View Post
    I've got the entire 5 CD set and it's Peter at his best. His rhythm section ain't bad either. John McVie and Mick Fleetwood.
    The UK gigs the Dutch guy recorded on a reel to reel ?
    I am nuts over the officially released Vol 1&2. Peter's playing on these tapes are quite unique and I think a piece of musical history, buried in obscurity. Since listening to them I found a new desire to play. There is a lot to be learned from Peters unusual phrasings and melodies. Pure delight and a breath of fresh air from the past.
    I would very much like to get copies of your 5 CDs of the 5 live shows. I have been looking all over torrent sites and such, found some awesome Fleetwood mac shows but not those 5. I am in my sixties and have a bunch of Blues & rock live recordings I could trade. I would be delighted if you can oblige. Cheers katznkitzatyahoodotcom

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    Re: Peter Green + Marshall = tone!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by katznkitz View Post
    The UK gigs the Dutch guy recorded on a reel to reel ?
    I am nuts over the officially released Vol 1&2. Peter's playing on these tapes are quite unique and I think a piece of musical history, buried in obscurity. Since listening to them I found a new desire to play. There is a lot to be learned from Peters unusual phrasings and melodies. Pure delight and a breath of fresh air from the past.
    I would very much like to get copies of your 5 CDs of the 5 live shows. I have been looking all over torrent sites and such, found some awesome Fleetwood mac shows but not those 5. I am in my sixties and have a bunch of Blues & rock live recordings I could trade. I would be delighted if you can oblige. Cheers katznkitzatyahoodotcom

    Welcome to the forum katz.
    Looks as though this 5 CD set may be a mythical thing as the thread was first started in '13 with nothing since.

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    Re: Peter Green + Marshall = tone!!!

    DAMN it!!!!

    I was wanting to hear the story of the dutch guy that recorded Peter Green with Mayall on reel to reel. Talk about a teaser!



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    Re: Peter Green + Marshall = tone!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by buckaroo View Post
    DAMN it!!!!

    I was wanting to hear the story of the dutch guy that recorded Peter Green with Mayall on reel to reel. Talk about a teaser!


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    Re: Peter Green + Marshall = tone!!!

    Many Thanks! Just found volume 1 and 2 for sale.

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    Re: Peter Green + Marshall = tone!!!

    Think he's got the out of phase thing going?

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    Re: Peter Green + Marshall = tone!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jazzfinger View Post
    Think he's got the out of phase thing going?

    PG used the flipped magnet tone in Fleetwood Mac days not with Mayall.

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    Re: Peter Green + Marshall = tone!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by goldtop0 View Post
    PG used the flipped magnet tone in Fleetwood Mac days not with Mayall.
    The opening and closing guitar phrases on this sound OOP to me.

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    Re: Peter Green + Marshall = tone!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by chasenblues View Post
    The opening and closing guitar phrases on this sound OOP to me.

    It definitely is.

    There are other examples on those albums as well, like this for instance:

    Midnight Blues

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    Re: Peter Green + Marshall = tone!!!

    I stand corrected.........

    Looks like the odd live recording has the tone.

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    Re: Peter Green + Marshall = tone!!!

    No worries. Maybe he didn’t realize how cool it was then and really started using it with FM?
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    Re: Peter Green + Marshall = tone!!!

    Yeah maybe.
    I could imagine that John would have said 'hey Peter don't think you're ever gonna use that tone on recordings cos you ain't okay', he may have been fairly particular about things done in the studio I imagine.

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    Re: Peter Green + Marshall = tone!!!

    It's hard to tell to my ears because he doesn't often go full on..as in you know how in the middle position you can play with the volume knobs to balance how heavy the OOP tone is, he seems to dial it in to a point. Yet, at the same time, some of those old PAF's can have some honk by themselves so I can't make a judgement other than..yeah, definitely some honk there.



    Hmm, geez, perhaps some of those 'round here who have first hand experience with my future guitar can give us some insight?






    Oh, and as always, Peter ****ing Green, one of those guys who can turn the simplest little phrase into magic, world needs more of that deep subtlety.

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    Re: Peter Green + Marshall = tone!!!

    So will the latest reincarnation of Fleetwood Mac include some Peter Green songs? One can only wish.

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    Re: Peter Green + Marshall = tone!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by goldtop0 View Post
    Yeah maybe.
    I could imagine that John would have said 'hey Peter don't think you're ever gonna use that tone on recordings cos you ain't okay', he may have been fairly particular about things done in the studio I imagine.
    I wouldn’t doubt that he was.


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    Re: Peter Green + Marshall = tone!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by deytookerjaabs View Post
    It's hard to tell to my ears because he doesn't often go full on..as in you know how in the middle position you can play with the volume knobs to balance how heavy the OOP tone is, he seems to dial it in to a point. Yet, at the same time, some of those old PAF's can have some honk by themselves so I can't make a judgement other than..yeah, definitely some honk there.



    Hmm, geez, perhaps some of those 'round here who have first hand experience with my future guitar can give us some insight?






    Oh, and as always, Peter ****ing Green, one of those guys who can turn the simplest little phrase into magic, world needs more of that deep subtlety.
    That’s part of the beauty (and fun if you have that mod on one of your guitars) of the OOP. You can dial-in as much or as little as you like. Gary Moore used to do the same thing.

    And you’re absolutely right about PG’s playing!


    Midnight Blues

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    Re: Peter Green + Marshall = tone!!!

    I listen to and play PG's tunes all the time(as best as possible).........he was one subtle tuneful cat for sure.......and as you say, turned simple things into 'now why didn't I think of that' situations/playing.
    It's the fact that his playing was recorded that we can dwell on it, like BB King, an inspiration, just love it
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    Re: Peter Green + Marshall = tone!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by goldtop0 View Post
    I listen to and play PG's tunes all the time(as best as possible).........he was one subtle tuneful cat for sure.......and as you say, turned simple things into 'now why didn't I think of that' situations/playing.
    It's the fact that his playing was recorded that we can dwell on it, like BB King, an inspiration, just love it
    Jumpin' at Shadows and many many more.
    "JAS" is one of my all-time favorites, as is this (and typing of B.B., rather B.Besque I might add):




    Midnight Blues

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    Re: Peter Green + Marshall = tone!!!

    Another that's quite B.Besque:

    Midnight Blues

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    Re: Peter Green + Marshall = tone!!!

    Thanks for posting those Midnight

    I need to get a copy of that Boston Tea Party Feb 1970 recording......can you help with where that might be available at all?
    Cheers


    Don't worry about it.......found a range of these on Amazon
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