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  1. #81

    Re: The Red Thread: Factory Red Gibsons from the Golden Era

    Quote Originally Posted by bigsby'd View Post
    Andy Nelson's dream.
    Yes indeed. I bought the Tsumura book circa 1987, when it came out. That's the only way I even knew about this model. Other than that article about Nelson that I linked in the other thread, I've never seen a photo online (there weren't any, until now) or even heard about one of these, and I've been browsing vintage guitars on the web regularly for about 15 years.

  2. #82

    Re: The Red Thread: Factory Red Gibsons from the Golden Era

    Dang!
    the faster we go the rounder we get

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    Re: The Red Thread: Factory Red Gibsons from the Golden Era




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  5. #85

    Re: The Red Thread: Factory Red Gibsons from the Golden Era

    In case people didn't follow my link... there were only 6 (SIX!!) Crests made, and this one appears to be different than the other 5 (only has 20 frets, instead of the 22 that were indicated by the designer, Andy Nelson). Until now, there were NO photos of this model anywhere on the internet.

    SIX!!

  6. #86

    Re: The Red Thread: Factory Red Gibsons from the Golden Era

    How about a little fantasy... Charlie Christian playing a red ES150


  7. #87

    Re: The Red Thread: Factory Red Gibsons from the Golden Era

    A bit of excuse to bump this wonderful Red Thread...

    One for JimR56... Time: The early-mid 1960's - A practically brand new all-cherry George Gobel L5-CN on one of Homer & Jethro's old album covers.

    These two 'thinking mans hillbillies' had great taste in guitars and got the best from Gibson, Fender, D'Angelico and Stromberg.




  8. #88

    Re: The Red Thread: Factory Red Gibsons from the Golden Era

    Good one, flameburst. I've posted that cover image someplace before, but I guess it wasn't here. I had forgotten that the Gobel had a humbucker (and I'd also forgotten about that red mandolin). Very cool.

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    Re: The Red Thread: Factory Red Gibsons from the Golden Era

    I love that LP Special!
    Wildwood Spec Les Paul R8
    Tungsten Crema Wheat

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    Re: The Red Thread: Factory Red Gibsons from the Golden Era

    Quote Originally Posted by flameburst View Post
    Wow -- I remember when those Beatles wigs were all the rage! I bought one back in 1964 when I was all of 8 years old. Wore it to school too!



    Now, back to our regularly scheduled program...
    Music is the BEST!

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    Re: The Red Thread: Factory Red Gibsons from the Golden Era

    BYE
    Last edited by mbowen; 05-09-13 at 06:58 PM.

  12. #92

    Re: The Red Thread: Factory Red Gibsons from the Golden Era

    Nice 355, but... this thread is really all about guitars that were generally not available in red. Rare stuff. If we start posting all red Gibsons from the golden era, I don't think this thread would be as special.

    From the OP:
    Quote Originally Posted by captaincanada View Post
    I'm not really talking about the common examples like cherry SGs and ES-335s, I'm talking about models that don't usually come in red, or custom examples like Sparkling Burgandy, Cardinal Red...

  13. #93

    Re: The Red Thread: Factory Red Gibsons from the Golden Era

    Currently up on ebay- a '60 Byrdland custom order, very similar to the one I posted above (sold at Skinner's auction house awhile ago), but with a varitone and different v/t knobs. The listing has TONS of photos.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1960...item41739ddf60







    Cherry red on spruce just kills me every time.

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    Re: The Red Thread: Factory Red Gibsons from the Golden Era

    Yeah that's killer!

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    Re: The Red Thread: Factory Red Gibsons from the Golden Era

    Looks like Barry Richman has a cherry red Byrdland as well:


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    Re: The Red Thread: Factory Red Gibsons from the Golden Era

    A few factory red custom colors I've had:

    1959 ES-175 Factory Cherry


    1959 ES-175 Factory Chery


    1966 Thunderbird II Factory Cherry


    Firebird I Factory cardinal red


    Far left 1965 L-4C Factory Cherry


    1959 L5-CT Factory Cherry

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    Re: The Red Thread: Factory Red Gibsons from the Golden Era

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    Far left 1965 L-4C Factory Cherry
    Love these pics, Kerry! I've never played a guitar with the McCarty guard setup. Are those pickups the same as the original slug-pole P90's?
    If it sounds good, it is good.

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    Re: The Red Thread: Factory Red Gibsons from the Golden Era

    1966 Thunderbird II Factory Cherry


    Love this bass!
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    Re: The Red Thread: Factory Red Gibsons from the Golden Era



    More in it's own thread coming soon...

  20. #100

    Re: The Red Thread: Factory Red Gibsons from the Golden Era

    Is that a '61 Wilshire? Cool guitar, although I think red was a standard finish option.

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    Re: The Red Thread: Factory Red Gibsons from the Golden Era

    Uber cool guitar right there!!! Covet!

    In your face.

  22. #102

    Re: The Red Thread: Factory Red Gibsons from the Golden Era

    Those here have probably seen this already, but there's an ultra-rare, beautiful 1960 Byrdland in original factory cherry on eBay:

    Item number: 281112600416

    Shame about the strap button on the neck and the varitone clutter but come one - that there is a stunner!


  23. #103

    Re: The Red Thread: Factory Red Gibsons from the Golden Era

    Quote Originally Posted by flameburst View Post
    Those here have probably seen this already, but there's an ultra-rare, beautiful 1960 Byrdland in original factory cherry on eBay:

    Item number: 281112600416

    Shame about the strap button on the neck and the varitone clutter but come one - that there is a stunner!
    You noticed that too, did you FB? I posted a link and photos above, a few days ago (post 93). Only a few of those in existence!

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    Red 1959 ES 345


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    Re: The Red Thread: Factory Red Gibsons from the Golden Era

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    You noticed that too, did you FB? I posted a link and photos above, a few days ago (post 93). Only a few of those in existence!
    Oh Bum! Sorry about that. I only dip in now and again and missed your earlier post Jim. I should have known you'd already seen it. What an amazing thing it is!


  26. #106

    Re: The Red Thread: Factory Red Gibsons from the Golden Era

    Was just doing some online searching, and came across something I'd seen before, but hadn't posted here. This one is a '61, apparently custom ordered with a red body and a black top. At least the back photo belongs in this thread (but I'll post both).




    Rare bird!

  27. #107

    Re: The Red Thread: Factory Red Gibsons from the Golden Era

    Quote Originally Posted by JimR56 View Post
    Currently up on ebay- a '60 Byrdland custom order, very similar to the one I posted above (sold at Skinner's auction house awhile ago), but with a varitone and different v/t knobs. The listing has TONS of photos.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1960...item41739ddf60

    Cherry red on spruce just kills me every time.
    Well, the links to those photos went dead, but fortunately I just stumbled across several great photos of it, here: http://www.themusicemporium.com/prod...ry-1960.1.html

    This beauty apparently went for $25K on ebay last year.






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    Re: The Red Thread: Factory Red Gibsons from the Golden Era

    Some nice ones!

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    Re: The Red Thread: Factory Red Gibsons from the Golden Era

    This '65 L-50 is on eBay right now.


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    Re: The Red Thread: Factory Red Gibsons from the Golden Era

    Quote Originally Posted by JimR56 View Post
    Another one in Burgundy:

    Sweet Fancy Moses! Can there be anything more beautiful? I know players and collectors are really divided about the double florentine cutaway, but I think these and Kessells are gorgeous. Think of them as giant hollowbody SGs! And in sparkling burgundy? Beyond outrageous. What happened to the future? Were the Jetsons just lying to us? Forget flying cars-I thought we'd have time machines by now! I'd go back and order one of these in lefty as I'm sure no one did the first time around!
    "A little bit of knowledge can be a very dangerous thing."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elliot Easton View Post
    Sweet Fancy Moses! Can there be anything more beautiful? I know players and collectors are really divided about the double florentine cutaway, but I think these and Kessells are gorgeous. Think of them as giant hollowbody SGs! And in sparkling burgundy? Beyond outrageous. What happened to the future? Were the Jetsons just lying to us? Forget flying cars-I thought we'd have time machines by now! I'd go back and order one of these in lefty as I'm sure no one did the first time around!
    Yes, give me a time machine too (hmm... has that thread topic already been done, btw?). I'd probably order a Gobel with a Charlie Christian pickup. I also might have created a double florentine cut Crest (not the rosewood crest, the ultra-rare one), probably in black.

    My first high quality guitar was a '64 Kessel (regular). I only had it for about five years before it became part of a trade, and I've missed it ever since. Not quite as keen on the Lopez myself, but it does make a wonderful statement- especially in that color.

    So, I'm the one who posted that thing, and I only just noticed that it has two toggle switches! Weird (that it has two, and that I never noticed).

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    Re: The Red Thread: Factory Red Gibsons from the Golden Era

    one is a standby switch so you can silence the guitar between sets w/o losing your settings! kinda cool actually, like a country gent has. also the trini has a shorter scale.
    "A little bit of knowledge can be a very dangerous thing."

  33. #113

    Re: The Red Thread: Factory Red Gibsons from the Golden Era

    Quote Originally Posted by Elliot Easton View Post
    one is a standby switch so you can silence the guitar between sets w/o losing your settings! kinda cool actually, like a country gent has. also the trini has a shorter scale.
    I had forgotten about the shorter scale. Nice.

    Speaking of Gents, have you used them? I have a '60, the single-cut version with trestle bracing. Amazing guitar.

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    Re: The Red Thread: Factory Red Gibsons from the Golden Era

    Yes, I've had several, including a '65 lefty. Right now I have the Gretsch reissue of the '62 w/ all the George Harrison features. I string it with .012 Pyramid flatwounds, and between the heavy strings and the zero fret, it has the greatest, fastest, lowest action w/o buzz of any guitar that I own. The heavier strings don't flop around so you can get ridiculous action, with the truss rod cranked, with literally a whisper of relief. It's a real rail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elliot Easton View Post
    Yes, I've had several, including a '65 lefty. Right now I have the Gretsch reissue of the '62 w/ all the George Harrison features. I string it with .012 Pyramid flatwounds, and between the heavy strings and the zero fret, it has the greatest, fastest, lowest action w/o buzz of any guitar that I own. The heavier strings don't flop around so you can get ridiculous action, with the truss rod cranked, with literally a whisper of relief. It's a real rail.
    My understanding is that trestle bracing was used on Gents up to early 1962. Do you know if your reissue has trestles? Just curious. I absolutely love the sustain they give mine. The thing sustains like a solidbody, while still delivering a bit of hollowbody airy-ness (moreso than a Gibson semi-hollow, to my ears). The 17" body probably contributes to that.

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    Re: The Red Thread: Factory Red Gibsons from the Golden Era

    I don't know for sure, but since it's a fairly recent FMIC model, after Fender really tweaked the line and got things a lot more accurate I would guess it has the trestle bracing. Mine plays like a dream.
    "A little bit of knowledge can be a very dangerous thing."

  37. #117

    Re: The Red Thread: Factory Red Gibsons from the Golden Era

    Awesome thread.

    ... she was mumblin' to some howlin' wolf about some voodoo healin'

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    ... she was mumblin' to some howlin' wolf about some voodoo healin'

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    ... she was mumblin' to some howlin' wolf about some voodoo healin'

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    Re: The Red Thread: Factory Red Gibsons from the Golden Era

    Quote Originally Posted by Elliot Easton View Post
    one is a standby switch so you can silence the guitar between sets w/o losing your settings! kinda cool actually, like a country gent has. also the trini has a shorter scale.

    The Trini Lopez Standard was based on the ES-335 and had the 24 3/4 scale.

    The Trini Lopez Deluxe was based on the Barney Kessel model which had a 25 1/2 scale.

    Thank "snakecharmer" for this info.

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