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    Re: misinformation

    Just spoke with the seller today. He insists that it's korina. And says that all LE with serial starting 00xxxxx are korina. That's first time I hear that. Still have my 76 with 2 serails.

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    Re: 76 explorer

    He's wrong.

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    Re: 76 explorer

    I have another one of these guitars.

    Its exact identity and history is a mystery because when I bought it the serial number decal was long gone, but from what I've learned from reading this thread it's impossible to accurately date them anyway. It hasn't been played for many years and I'm currently in the process of providing it with some much needed TLC. I'll post some pictures in the next week or so.
    Any comments or information about it would be greatly appreciated.

    What I know about it is as follows:

    The volume pots date from the second week of 1976 and measure 325k/320k. The tone pot is a replacement.
    The neck has been broken and repaired at the (short) tenon. If it has been refinished at any point then this was before the neck repair. The control cavity has had a sticker or piece of tape inside at some point, this has since disappeared leaving bare wood beneath.
    The profile of the neck is bigger than ANY measured and listed in the above list of serial numbers. It measures over an inch at the first fret.
    The cover of the control cavity is brown.
    It has the name 'M Trafford' and a number, 'WO234175' scratched into the finish between the pickups and under the pickguard. The pickguard is chrome.
    The pickups have been changed, a Seymour Duncan Pearly Gates in the bridge and a DiMarzio Fred in the neck.
    The frets look original, giant frets and really neat on the ends.
    The lead to the output jack is braided and heat-shrinked red. Jack plate is gold anodised aluminium.
    The case has the same white trim as the later Gibson E2, and I assume isn't the original case.

    Hopefully M Trafford is reading this and he can tell me where the decal has gone. When was it broken? Have the neck and body always been a couple? Was it an L.E. or a non L.E.?

    A long list of issues, I admit, but it's still the best playing, best sounding guitar I've ever seen.
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    Re: 76 explorer

    Would you have some pictures of it to share? That may help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anje View Post
    Would you have some pictures of it to share? That may help.
    Yeah I'll take some this week. At the moment I have literally the worst camera ever made and it really needs some clear photos, I agree.

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    Re: 76 explorer

    Hi everyone,
    I have a nice '76 explorer and need an advice. The jackplate is broken, has been glued up but would like to change it.

    Problem is I haven't found the right one, the new ones are all rectangular while the one I have is square, but smaller than the LP ones...so I did not find the correct jackplate yet.

    My actual dimensions are around 1 inch by 1 inch (center holes)

    Thanks for your advice,
    Filippo

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    Re: 76 explorer

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    greetings from Germany.  I just purchase 00230517. That is already on the list.

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    Re: 76 explorer

    Hi folks,

    Here´s our (4Sound Gothenburg SWEDEN) Explorer 76´ LE (s/n 00230210).

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    Re: 76 explorer

    Oh yeah. There's one, right there!



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    Re: 76 explorer

    Old picture of the '76 Explorer my brother bought in 1982 at 4 Winds Music in St Cloud, MN for a whopping $175. He still has it.
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  11. #131

    Re: 76 explorer

    I just sold 00240878 non LE nat (on the list). Had a large neck and sounded I N C R E D I B L E !!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke Gibson View Post
    My '76 LE s/n 00 23333X
    I've got a '76 LE; s/n 00233336. I think it's the one Luke had previously. Great guitar.
    Last edited by thamrick; 12-24-16 at 03:45 PM.

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    Explorer Re: 76 explorer

    Just found a guy with #00230388 on Facebook firebird page Big neck factory stamped 2

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    Re: 76 explorer

    Quote Originally Posted by Robin B View Post
    Just found a guy with #00230388 on Facebook firebird page Big neck factory stamped 2
    What do you guys make of this serial? LE 76 Explorer. Mine, big neck.



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    Re: 76 explorer

    Quote Originally Posted by latestarter View Post
    What do you guys make of this serial? LE 76 Explorer. Mine, big neck

    00233818 - cannot be anything else if it's a LE. It's on the SN list on the first page of this thread.

    You see more often that the decals are somewhat 'melted' by the lacquer and become a little warped.

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    Re: 76 explorer

    I have an Explorer that was sold to me many years ago as a 76. It's been refinished, repaired, rebuilt. it had a neck joint that had a crack that was well repaired, doweled and glued, very solid. Refinish in Transparent Red for lack of a better name. Still has the original Ttop bridge pickup. I'm sure the bridge is not supposed to be a nashville. Obviously the switch is not where its supposed to be, and the pickguard is not original. the serial number was lost to the refin. The neck is not a baseball bat thickness, but not thin either, very comfy. Just wondering if it could really be a 76 or near there by just looking.
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    Re: 76 explorer

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch D. Bunker View Post
    00233818 - cannot be anything else if it's a LE. It's on the SN list on the first page of this thread.

    You see more often that the decals are somewhat 'melted' by the lacquer and become a little warped.
    Thanks - my guess as well. I've had all sorts suggested, including 0293313!

    As per the front page, the neck is very large.
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    Explorer Re: 76 explorer

    Thought I would mention that there is currently an original '76 Limited Edition Explorer for sale in my area (San Diego) on Craigslist (I have no affiliation). I was curious, so checked it out one evening a couple weeks ago. The guitar appears to be bone stock with no breaks, which as we know is rare in and of itself for this model.

    Although it's a limited edition model, the neck isn't all that thick at the nut. I was looking for a thicker neck, which is why I ended up deciding to pass. It does thicken up as you get closer to the 12th fret. The body is 3-piece mahogany.

    The guitar played easily and well, though it could use a good setup. I didn't pull the pickups or open up the control cavity to check originality there. Overall, a rare, (apparently) unmolested example.

    https://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/...337980854.html

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    Re: 76 explorer

    Cool thread!

    Count me in... '76 LE natural serial 00232685. One of my all time faves... was fs at Willies at some point in it's life given I found one of their handwritten cards in the case pocket.

    MASSIVE but Glorious neck... like you sawed a bat in half... and very light especially given the massive neck at 7lb, 12 oz.

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    Re: 76 explorer

    I had a 76 LE all original I bought off the original owner. Massive neck, light guitar...neck reminded me of those old Yamaha cheap nylon string classicals. Had to let it go, just couldn't play that neck . Sounded decent but nothing spectacular. Sure looked cool tho. Wonder why Gibson decided to go so massive on the neck...far bigger than any original 50s Gibson neck ever was.

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    Re: 76 explorer

    I play mine every week. Love it. It has mid 60’s Pat No decal p/ups and long PAF style magnets. I wouldn’t mind some original TarBacks to compare, but I cant imagine they would sound any better than it does now.

    Otherwise known as Grant.

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    Re: 76 explorer

    Quote Originally Posted by latestarter View Post
    I play mine every week. Love it. It has mid 60’s Pat No decal p/ups and long PAF style magnets. I wouldn’t mind some original TarBacks to compare, but I cant imagine they would sound any better than it does now.

    Never pulled the pups in mine... just assumed they were tarbacks, but the guitar sounds just amazing. For rock... I could own this and no other guitar. My 75 V has pat stickers... not sure what the history is on these, but guessing they were in a pickup bin, and what you got... you got.

    The neck is massive... but for me, it plays like butter. I love the big neck and its shaped in a way that just feels right to me. For comparison (again) my 75 V has a big neck, but not like the explorer. The 75 V was more in line with a 68GT neck (used to have) but the explorer is in a 'never been there before' category.

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    Re: 76 explorer

    Quote Originally Posted by nichd View Post
    Never pulled the pups in mine... just assumed they were tarbacks, but the guitar sounds just amazing. For rock... I could own this and no other guitar. My 75 V has pat stickers... not sure what the history is on these, but guessing they were in a pickup bin, and what you got... you got.

    The neck is massive... but for me, it plays like butter. I love the big neck and its shaped in a way that just feels right to me. For comparison (again) my 75 V has a big neck, but not like the explorer. The 75 V was more in line with a 68GT neck (used to have) but the explorer is in a 'never been there before' category.
    Mine is not only super fat, it's wide too. Especially up around the 12th. Truly massive and makes an R8 feel like an R0!
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    Re: 76 explorer

    Quote Originally Posted by latestarter View Post
    Mine is not only super fat, it's wide too. Especially up around the 12th. Truly massive and makes an R8 feel like an R0!
    Makes an R8 feel like an R0- that's a great way to describe these lol.

    I remember a buddy (member here) calling me up and telling me I need to buy this thing because it's amazing. I had never paid any attention to these and knew nothing about them... I played it and thought to myself, I could sell all of my LPs and just have this... it played effortlessly and sounded just unbelievable... and I went home with it 5 minutes after first picking it up.

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    Re: 76 explorer

    Nice guitar latesarter!
    I can say I sold all my old LPs at some point after getting my 76LE, it's that good (even if it's not exactly the same tone & vibe).

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    Re: 76 explorer

    Hi

    I've recently acquired a 1976 (I think) Explorer. Pots age to that anyway.

    From the pickup cavities, I think the guitar was originally black, but there are also very minor signs of white residue around the dot markers on the side of the neck. The guitar has been stripped back to natural at some point in it's past.

    It has a very chunky neck and the remaining visible serial numbers stamped on the end of the headstock are 67336. So from the list below I'm thinking this is one of the unusual/pre-production guitars. If the first number of the serial code was 9 it would fit perfectly in that batch.

    Jes



    Quote Originally Posted by keef View Post
    It would be interesting to compare serial numbers of the LE and non LE '76s to see if there is any logic to these.

    Added are neck thickness measurements at 1st fret / 7th fret / 12th fret

    00229608 LE nat 60s med nk
    00229622 LE full nk, nat 0.843 / 0.943 / 1.000, 7615/7621 pots
    00229628 LE nat 0.830 / 0.925 / 1003
    00229772 LE nat
    002298XX LE nat Kahlerized restored
    00230XX4 LE nat hs broken off
    00230001 LE
    00230010 LE? nat ex-The Edge
    00230040 LE blk 7615/7621 pots
    00230048 LE? nat stolen in Austin Tx
    00230127 LE nat sold in Japan
    00230163 LE nat
    00230184 LE nat very thick baseball type of nk
    00230203 LE nat
    00230210 LE nat
    00230214 LE nat large nk
    00230224 LE nat original warranty registration card (filled out by Gibson) dated 11/6/1976
    00230260 LE nat chunky nk
    00230309 LE blk stripped to nat, hs broken off, body routed for Kahler
    00230370 LE, nat, warranty reg. 4.4.77, 762X or 763X pot
    00230417 LE nat chunky nk 7635 pots
    00230419 ? nat Dave's guitar coll
    00230517 LE nat hs break
    0023054X LE nat stamped pat.no. T-Tops 0.840
    00230543 LE nat kahlerized restored blk pg
    00230556 LE blk rep hs break baseball bat nk
    00230558 LE blk
    00230634 LE nat chunky nk
    00230691 LE blk
    00230695 LE blk
    00230696 LE nat
    0023075X LE nat chunky nk
    00230833 LE nat
    00230965 LE blk
    00231107 LE nat
    00231118 nat stamped serial # (maybe not by Gibson), no LE indication/decal, maybe refin, 762X and 761X pots
    00231131 LE nat
    00231236 LE
    00232218 LE nat 7615 pot
    00232253 LE blk 8/13/77 pch date on warranty card
    00232275 LE blk .812 / .954 / 1.017
    002323XX LE broken hs stripped added nk inlays (prior to restoration)
    00232348 LE nat
    00232407 LE nat 7621 pot
    00232413 LE nat
    00232630 LE nat
    0023264X LE huge nk
    00232665 LE nat
    00232685 LE nat
    002327XX LE blk
    002327XX LE 0.912, 755X pots
    00232706 LE nat baseball bat nk
    00232708 LE nat chunky nk
    00232709 LE nat huge nk
    00232726 LE nat fat and chunky nk 7615 7622 pots, K 2 stamped on hs
    00232734 LE nat rep hs brk
    00232760 LE nat chunky nk 76 pots
    00232776 LE nat huge nk original warranty registration card (filled out by Gibson) dated 11/20/1976
    00232778 LE nat 762X pots
    00232789 LE nat
    0023279X LE nat (refin blk) (James Hetfield), 7621 pots
    00232828 LE nat big nk 7602 and 7615 pot
    00232845 LE nat stamped 2nd 763X and 7624 pots
    00232856 LE
    00232884 LE nat
    00232897 LE blk super fat nk
    00232917 LE baseball nk
    00232926 LE big nk nat
    00232961 LE big chunky nk 7615 7621 pots K 2 stamp on hs
    00232966 LE nat big nk
    00232986 LE big nk
    00233XXX LE nat huge nk SD 59 pups
    00233XXX LE nat large nk 7542 pots
    00233026 LE nat
    00233048 LE nat chunky nk
    00233055 LE nat
    00233058 LE nat huge (now shaved) nk
    00233064 LE nat 7615 and 7621 pots
    00233075 NON LE large nk nat
    00233079 LE blk full nk
    00233082 LE nat
    00233179 LE nat 7615 and 7621 pots
    00233184 LE nat
    00233124 LE nat chunky nk 7621 pots
    00233191 LE nat 7615 pot
    00233219 LE nat 7621 pot
    00233233 LE nat 'fattest nk'
    00233320 LE nat
    0023333X LE nat (Luke Gibson), full nk - 0.911 / 0.974 / 1.017
    00233345 LE nat big nk
    00233362 LE nat big nk NO tarbacks
    00233372 LE 7615/762X pots
    00233373 LE nat big nk
    00233379 LE nat really big nk
    00233428 LE nat
    0023348X LE nat, removed nk, nk cavity stamp in body 'July 1X 1976'
    00233540 LE nat chunky nk
    00233552 LE nat
    00233601 LE nat huge nk
    00233772 LE nat big nk
    00233784 LE nat huge nk
    00233813 LE nat very big nk
    00233816 LE nat fat thick nk
    00233818 LE nat huge nk .951/1.026/1.049
    00233820 LE (could also be 00233920) nat big baseball bat nk
    00233908 LE nat huge nk
    002339XX LE 0.961, 761X pots
    00233915 LE nat chunky nk 7615 7621 pots
    00233918 LE nat thick nk
    00233980 LE nat baseball bat nk
    00233989 LE nat bought at NAMM (early example?) 7542 (2) and 755X pots
    0023X081 LE nat
    0023X621 LE nat fat nk
    00234007 LE nat
    00234031 LE nat
    00234103 LE nat
    00234115 LE nat, K stamped on hs (and 2)
    00234124 LE nat chunky nk 7621 pots
    00234161 LE nat

    00239787 non LE see through wine RED, 'K' stamped on hs
    00239793 non LE nat 7636 pots
    00239866 non LE nat
    00239880 non LE nat fat & meaty nk also stamped 96732X in hs
    00239888 non LE nat
    00239896 non LE nat
    00239913 non LE blk fat nk
    00239939 non LE nat
    00239965 non LE nat
    00239979 non LE
    0023998X non LE nat
    00239965 non LE nat
    00239979 non LE nat
    00240XXX non LE nat schallers
    00240XXX non LE unplayed with tags 762X pot
    00240015 non LE nat routed
    00240052 non LE nat STAMPED serial no may be original
    00240057 non LE nat
    00240083 non LE blk, refin white
    00240112 non LE nat
    00240154 non LE nat
    00240161 non LE nat 7636 pot slim 60s nk, 0.8 / 0.92 / 1.0
    00240169 non LE nat 76XX pot
    00240220 non LE nat
    00240229 non LE nat narrow depth nk
    00240246 non LE nat
    00240248 non LE
    00240267 non LE med nk 764X pot
    00240282 non LE nat
    00240293 non LE blk 7640 pot beefy nk
    00240297 non LE nat
    00240776 non LE wine RED see through big nk 'K' stamped on hs
    00240777 non LE blk (refin, originally black), big & wide nk 760X pot
    00240789 non LE nat
    00240821 non LE nat lge nk 7636 pot
    00240828 non LE nat
    00240837 non LE nat
    00240840 non LE nat
    00240878 non LE nat
    00240891 non LE big nk 0.787 / 0.945 / 0.984
    00240897 non LE blk
    00240909, non LE nat 7621 pots
    00240923 non LE nat beefy nk
    00240953 non LE nat med nk
    0024X992 non LE nat replaced pups
    00240993 non LE blk not fat nk
    00240998 non LE stripped/refin
    00241020 non LE nat very chunky nk
    00241025 non LE nat added pg switches
    00241036 non LE blk
    00241038 non LE blk
    00241054 non LE nat
    00241067 non LE STAMPED serial no (no decal) looks original nat finish ex-38 Special
    00241071 non LE nat kahler route filled
    00241099 non LE nat modded
    002411XX non LE nat med size nk (SGLP63) 0.805 / 0.909 / 1.005
    00241179 non LE nat blk refin body
    00241284 non LE blk super flat nk
    00241304 non LE nat
    00241307 non LE nat 60s nk
    00241340 non LE nat Kahler
    00241358 non LE blk floyd
    00241364 non LE blk
    00241371 non LE blk
    00241407 non LE nat not too skinny nk
    00241502 non LE nat, 7636 pot
    00241517 non LE nat
    00241562 non LE wine RED see through, 'K' stamped on headstock
    00241563 non LE wine RED see through, 'K' stamped on headstock
    00241566 non LE nat full/thick nk
    00241585 non LE black 7636 pot
    00241591 non LE black full nk
    00241815 non LE nat
    00241XXX non LE stamped 2

    First impression is that all LE's have the big necks, and (at least) some of the non LE's as well. Plus LE's are not limited to natural finished guitars.

    There are also a few Explorers known that according to the pot codes would date to 1975-1977, with six digit stamped headstock numbers:

    627091 nat also w 06 247092 decal
    627093 white 7548 pot
    627271 white
    627404 white 764X pot codes
    627463 white
    627881 white 7552 pot codes, stamped DEMO under the pg
    967310 white 7636 pot
    96732X nat also w decal 00239880 (see above)
    967357 white Heritage auctions
    967368 white 75 and 76 pots, stamped SECOND
    967370 white chunky medium nk
    967392 white 7640 pot codes
    967395 white 7640 pot codes
    967406 white not big nk
    967453 white factory 2nd bought in March 1977

    (Firebird, white 75 pots stamped 627673, with a '00' decal under the finish)

    The 1977s - see my next post in this thread:

    06 247041 (nat)
    06 247052 (nat)
    06 247069 nat, stamped BGN
    06 247082 (blk)
    06 247092 (nat) also with 627091 stamped hs number
    06 247109 (refin, ex Black Oak Arkansas)
    06 247116 (nat)
    06 247118 (nat) hs brk
    06 2471XX (nat)
    06 247133 (nat)
    06 247167 (blk)
    06 2472XX (blk)
    06 247XXX (nat)
    06 2521XX (blk) 7650 pot
    06 252157 (red)
    06 252189 (red) kahler
    06 252190 (red)
    06 2521XX (blk)
    06 252197 (blk)
    06 252211 (red)
    06 25222X (red)
    06 252271 (nat)

    1981 Explorer: 0.812 / 0.935 / 1.000

    Shipping totals according to Gibson's ledgers (which contain inaccuracies):

    1975: White 2 (total 2)
    1976: Ebony 104, Natural 1835, White 67 (total 2006)
    1977: Ebony 203, Natural 760, White 124 (total 1087) - at least a batch of red Explorers was made as well
    1978: Ebony 65, Natural 149, White 60 (total 274)
    1979: Ebony 133, Natural 94, White 60, Explorer II (E2) 586 (total 873)

    "If" the serial numbers on the '76 LE Explorers were applied in chronological sequence, the known pot codes would indicate that Gibson did not start shipping the run of Explorers until around June (my #00229622 has one 7621 pot). I wrote to Gibson for the shipping dates of my guitar and that of a non-LE guitar with 7621 pots, but was informed that there are no ledgers for this period available. If this is correct, it will be very hard to verify when these guitars actually were manufactured and/or shipped.

    When checking the serial ## and pots of other 1976 Gibsons though, it seems that the serial number decals that were applied in the factory may NOT have been used in chronological order, but were applied at random within specific pre-assigned number ranges. Certain ranges of serial numbers were apparently assigned to specific models, with archtops in the low 100,000s, followed by the 3X5 guitars up to the 110,000s, the Les Paul range (110,000s-140,000s, with the Standards and Artisans - which were (re)introduced later in 1976 - in the 230,000s range), then the SG/L6s, S1/Marauders, basses and acoustics (140,000s-up to the 220,000s), with the Firebirds, Tbirds and Explorers occupying the 230,000s-240,000s range. Exceptions do apply...

    Pot dates were all over the place, but that may not mean a whole lot. Some examples:

    LPC #00120544 7613 pots
    LPC 00123976 7653 (!!!) pots
    SG Cst 00145326 754X pots
    SG Std 00149664 751X and 752X pots
    FB 00233531 7552 pots
    Tbird 00243036 7636 pots

    A number of 1976 guitars also have stamped manufacturing dates in the control cavity. The data derived from these also adds to the conclusion that the serial numbers within the pre-assigned ranges may have been applied randomly.

    If this is correct, then it would not be possible to determine if the general neck dimensions of the LE's and non LE's gradually changed during their production runs (from big to huge, as has been suggested in other threads), since the serial numbers on these guitars were not used in strict chronological sequence. YMMV...
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