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    It's late for me tonight but wanted to share a couple of crappy Blackberry shots of my new JP2 VOS. Saul (always a pleasure to work with) helped me with this one. It's a really excellent playing guitar; the lowest action I've ever seen on a historic. The notes ring all across the board including the upper access of the G string. This is my 7th historic LP and so far seems to be the best. The neck looks slim but somehow doesn't feel that way. There is some extra shoulder that seems to make it feel really comfortable. I was really concerned about how the neck was going to be, but after playing it for 3 hours I don't see any issues. I'll get back after I recover from returning to work after a long weekend. I'd be glad to answer any questions as I know there is interest and I'm still trying to learn about these myself.


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    Congrats! Awesome!!!!
    I think you are number one with number two

    more pics when you can... please.
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    sweet dreams...and yes, more pics please.
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    looks really cool!

    i am curious, are the pics showing how the color looks in person? it is a little of a brownish/darkish hue - not as faded (particularly in the middle) than i was expecting - not that its a bad thing, i think it looks awesome!!

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    Congrats mate, on a being the first to post the JP #2 and for a beautiful guitar.

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    congrats man, I love the shade and burst pattern.

    P.S. : that sticker has to go FAST! ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ufboy73 View Post
    looks really cool!

    i am curious, are the pics showing how the color looks in person? it is a little of a brownish/darkish hue - not as faded (particularly in the middle) than i was expecting - not that its a bad thing, i think it looks awesome!!
    These pics make everthing look darker because it's at night and shot with a Blackberry. The guitar looks very much like the ones shown on the Gibson website other than the shading around the large end of the body is more pronounced. The center is brighter or more faded looking much like Page's. I like that Gibson captured the detail of the extra dark shading on the upper bout near the 17th fret just like on the Jimmy Page original. This detail also appears on McCartney's 1960 burst. I'll get some better pics up before New Years.

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    Beauty

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    She's beautiful! Congratulations!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Whiskey View Post
    These pics make everthing look darker because it's at night and shot with a Blackberry. The guitar looks very much like the ones shown on the Gibson website other than the shading around the large end of the body is more pronounced. The center is brighter or more faded looking much like Page's. I like that Gibson captured the detail of the extra dark shading on the upper bout near the 17th fret just like on the Jimmy Page original. This detail also appears on McCartney's 1960 burst. I'll get some better pics up before New Years.
    got it! one thing i REALLY like about these Page's that i have seen so far - the flame pattern is VERY attractive to me...definitely there but very subtle and tasteful.

    Monster tops are awesome to look at but, personally, i would take the flame that is going on these Page signature guitars any day over the monsters!

    congrats again!

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    Nice - GW

    I'm really interested in your opinion of all of the different tones. Also does it sound like a R9 when desired? I saw the cavity shot that Mikeslub put up and it's amazing what Page and team were able to come up with to pack into that thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace139 View Post
    Nice - GW

    I'm really interested in your opinion of all of the different tones. Also does it sound like a R9 when desired? I saw the cavity shot that Mikeslub put up and it's amazing what Page and team were able to come up with to pack into that thing.
    I just got home and spent about an hour with it on my Divided/13 amp so I have a better feel for what it sounds like than I did yesterday. To be honest it's kind of hard to say what a regular R9 sounds like to me because each piece of wood has it's own sound. What I can tell you is it sounds really good and the bridge pickup does not sound like anything I've played before; however it's set up with IMO crappy .009's so I'm still on unfamiliar ground. The first thing I'm doing tonight is to put .010's on it. As far as the switching goes it is mind boggeling. I can see that this is going to be fun; just going through the different settings a few times they do all sound very useable and good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Whiskey View Post
    however it's set up with IMO crappy .009's so I'm still on unfamiliar ground. The first thing I'm doing tonight is to put .010's on it.
    I agree, I don't like the .009's either, and want to change them too! But Jimmy's sweat is on them!

    BTW, still loving the color and top on your geetar!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Whiskey View Post
    I just got home and spent about an hour with it on my Divided/13 amp so I have a better feel for what it sounds like than I did yesterday. To be honest it's kind of hard to say what a regular R9 sounds like to me because each piece of wood has it's own sound. What I can tell you is it sounds really good and the bridge pickup does not sound like anything I've played before; however it's set up with IMO crappy .009's so I'm still on unfamiliar ground. The first thing I'm doing tonight is to put .010's on it. As far as the switching goes it is mind boggeling. I can see that this is going to be fun; just going through the different settings a few times they do all sound very useable and good.
    Thanks GW - Sounds like you got your work cut out for you. Have a blast
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeSlub View Post
    I agree, I don't like the .009's either, and want to change them too! But Jimmy's sweat is on them!

    BTW, still loving the color and top on your geetar!

    I thought JP only actually handled the aged ones that got sent to UK for his signature. Nice one anyway. Play on.

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    Fucking A now everons got them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuryakin View Post
    I thought JP only actually handled the aged ones that got sent to UK for his signature. Nice one anyway. Play on.
    Mike has an aged one...

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    Does it come with a bow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black58 View Post
    Does it come with a bow?
    No, Gibson is going light on the additonal "candy" these days....
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    Finally got an opportunity to take some daylight shots, so here you go. I strung it with .010’s which feels much more comfortable to me. The neck feels great; I’ve got no issues with it at all. This is without a doubt the best setup I’ve ever seen on a historic. The action is so low and the nut is perfect. I have to say Gibson must have really put their best guy on detailing the playability. It actually deserves the Custom Shop title. The inlays do look a little better than usual but still not on par with the Historic Makeover inlays. Top notch materials throughout! The board is dark and looks like an original Brazillian (we know it's not), and the neck and back body have beautiful even grain. I was surprised that the serial number was 058; would have thought that the VOS models would start at 126. This one weighs an even 9 pounds, which always seems to be a good weight for me tone wise. The Grovers account for a Ľ pound of this weight. The aged ones do look killer but I wanted to get into one of these without spend (relatively) a fortune before I knew if I could live with the neck. Anyway my thinking was if I could connect with it, it might make for a nice refinish project down the road; who knows? I’m finding the single coil settings really cool. It’s amazing you can switch from Communication Breakdown tones to LP2 just like that. The out of phase tones are also killer. Anyway it has only been 2 days now but I can tell you that there is a ton of stuff to explore on this axe. It’s really exciting. I recommend you get one if you can.








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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeSlub View Post
    No, Gibson is going light on the additonal "candy" these days....
    That's right, forgot about that! Sorry, my bad.



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    Yowza! Great photos of a great guitar! And thanks for sharing your observations of fit and finish, playability, and tone!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace139 View Post
    Nice - GW

    I'm really interested in your opinion of all of the different tones. Also does it sound like a R9 when desired? I saw the cavity shot that Mikeslub put up and it's amazing what Page and team were able to come up with to pack into that thing.
    Yeah the normal switch positions give a traditional R9 tone; however the treble pickup has got a little extra edge about it; in a good way. It will really take a while to explore. See my previous post for the other comments.

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    Curiosity got the better of me. Thought you would like to see this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Whiskey View Post
    Yeah the normal switch positions give a traditional R9 tone; however the treble pickup has got a little extra edge about it; in a good way. It will really take a while to explore. See my previous post for the other comments.
    Hey GW, on mine, both of the under the pickguard switches have to be "in" (engaged) to get a traditional R9 tone on all three positions with the pickup selector toggle switch. If they are not both depressed, it sounds "normal" in the middle position of the pickup selector (both pickups on) except there's more edge on the treble pickup as you describe, but if I switch the toggle to treble or rhythm position (while the pickguard switches are "out" or not engaged), the individual treble and rhythm pickup tones aren't as normal. Thus, I find myself always keeping the two switched under the pickguard engaged unless I want an "out of phase" tone. Is yours the same way, or is mine possible mis-wired?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeSlub View Post
    Hey GW, on mine, both of the under the pickguard switches have to be "in" (engaged) to get a traditional R9 tone on all three positions with the pickup selector toggle switch. If they are not both depressed, it sounds "normal" in the middle position of the pickup selector (both pickups on) except there's more edge on the treble pickup as you describe, but if I switch the toggle to treble or rhythm position (while the pickguard switches are "out" or not engaged), the individual treble and rhythm pickup tones aren't as normal. Thus, I find myself always keeping the two switched under the pickguard engaged unless I want an "out of phase" tone. Is yours the same way, or is mine possible mis-wired?
    Yep, as you described. I have mainly been playing with the treble pickup as a single coil and switch the toggle for the middle, neck position and then pushing the pot back in for full humbucking tone. The under guard push buttons are used more for the middle toggle positions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeSlub View Post
    Hey GW, on mine, both of the under the pickguard switches have to be "in" (engaged) to get a traditional R9 tone on all three positions with the pickup selector toggle switch. If they are not both depressed, it sounds "normal" in the middle position of the pickup selector (both pickups on) except there's more edge on the treble pickup as you describe, but if I switch the toggle to treble or rhythm position (while the pickguard switches are "out" or not engaged), the individual treble and rhythm pickup tones aren't as normal. Thus, I find myself always keeping the two switched under the pickguard engaged unless I want an "out of phase" tone. Is yours the same way, or is mine possible mis-wired?
    Mike, I believe yours is wired correctly. With either of the buttons in the out position, you get the "quack" sound of the out of phase. The press release states that the buttons must be pushed in to get the normal sound.

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    I see Mark just listed a new aged JP2 on his site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Whiskey View Post
    I see Mark just listed a new aged JP2 on his site.
    man, the aged looks awesome (though i think it is already taken:(). as much as it would have hurt, i think i would have ponied up for an aged one had i gotten on the bandwagon early enough.

    i was fortunate enough to just luck into a VOS. another generous brother here was fortunate enough to get a chance at an aged and this one popped up. i had been shopping for my first historic but ended up with this instead...though maybe it would also be considered an 'historic'

    anyway, i absolutely LOVE this guitar. im no tone expert or great player like im sure so many of you are on here but to my humble hands/ears/eyes its a piece of art.

    the neck (which has been my stumbling block for so long with LP's) is just sooooo comfortable. it definitely seems a bit slimmer than the typical r0 neck to me but doesnt have the quirky tapered thickness of #1. the low action is suprisingly comfortable for me (my natural inclination is to have a bit higher action but after playing for a few minutes im going to leave it as is), though i did switch out to my standard .10's.

    I just got it home tonight so havent even played with all the toggle positions but the middle position and out of phase is Heartbreaker heaven!

    now i just need a marshall (or marshall based boutique) amp, pronto! for now, my OCD into my tweed is working out 'ok'. ill try it with the OCD in front of my PRRI next...

    i think gibson did a fantastic job with this.

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    I would love to see some pics!

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    i am photo challenged but ill get my better half to snap some pics and ill try to put them up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Whiskey View Post
    Anyway it has only been 2 days now but I can tell you that there is a ton of stuff to explore on this axe. It’s really exciting. I recommend you get one if you can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeSlub View Post
    Hey GW, on mine, both of the under the pickguard switches have to be "in" (engaged) to get a traditional R9 tone on all three positions with the pickup selector toggle switch. If they are not both depressed, it sounds "normal" in the middle position of the pickup selector (both pickups on) except there's more edge on the treble pickup as you describe, but if I switch the toggle to treble or rhythm position (while the pickguard switches are "out" or not engaged), the individual treble and rhythm pickup tones aren't as normal. Thus, I find myself always keeping the two switched under the pickguard engaged unless I want an "out of phase" tone. Is yours the same way, or is mine possible mis-wired?
    Wow - I hope it comes with directions. It would be cool if they had a LZ song reference for each of the settings.

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    After playing this guitar with .010's I felt the need to go back to the .009's. The set of Gibby strings buzzed for some reason but the Ernie Ball .009's I just put on are the bomb for this guitar. Having spent a whole day with the guitar after intonating it with these strings I can tell you this in without a doubt the best historic neck I've ever played; the feel, the setup, everything. I have or have had an R4, R7, R9, and R0. Believe me I love big necks and thin necks but this is THE one. There is something about this neck shape that although thin it is still beefy enough to play comfortablely all day. You can wrap your hand around it and play bass notes with your thumb and with the low action and .009's it's just a screamin rock guitar. I've never been more happy with a historic than with this guitar. The pickups just ooze Led Zep tones. They are keepers. Mike, I'd leave those .009's you've got on your guitar with the Page DNA stuck to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Whiskey View Post
    Mike, I'd leave those .009's you've got on your guitar with the Page DNA stuck to them.
    Forever? Pretty soon the DNA will be taken over by rust!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Whiskey View Post
    Mike, I'd leave those .009's you've got on your guitar with the Page DNA stuck to them.
    Will do, GW. Thanks for the update! Was having some fun playing mine this AM!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Whiskey View Post
    Curiosity got the better of me. Thought you would like to see this.


    Interesting! So the wires from the pickgaurd switches feed through a hole on the side of the bridge pickup ring. Thank goodness Gibson drill a hole in the front of the guitar for this!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG Dave View Post
    Interesting! So the wires from the pickgaurd switches feed through a hole on the side of the bridge pickup ring. Thank goodness Gibson drill a hole in the front of the guitar for this!
    I presume this is how Page's guitar was done as well. I'm sure Jimmy would have insisted not to start carving up the wood on his burst; even though he had the balls to modify the neck.

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    After playing this guitar with .010's I felt the need to go back to the .009's. The set of Gibby strings buzzed for some reason but the Ernie Ball .009's I just put on are the bomb for this guitar. Having spent a whole day with the guitar after intonating it with these strings I can tell you this in without a doubt the best historic neck I've ever played; the feel, the setup, everything. I have or have had an R4, R7, R9, and R0. Believe me I love big necks and thin necks but this is THE one. There is something about this neck shape that although thin it is still beefy enough to play comfortablely all day. You can wrap your hand around it and play bass notes with your thumb and with the low action and .009's it's just a screamin rock guitar. I've never been more happy with a historic than with this guitar. The pickups just ooze Led Zep tones. They are keepers. Mike, I'd leave those .009's you've got on your guitar with the Page DNA stuck to them.

    how funny you mention this. i also had immediately switched to my usual .010's but just last night i caught myself thinking that maybe i should go back to .009s. it still feels good with 10's but, i dont know, there was just something going on with the feel with the 9's!

    i agree about the neck. i actually played an r0 for a bit yesterday. its neck is definitely thinnish like the jp2 but i dont know if its the slight shoulder or something else but the jp2 feels REALLY comfortable. I usually dont like shoulder but its gives great leverage to an otherwise skinny neck (at least for my piss poor technique).

    PS i know i still owe pics - ill get them up!

    PPS i feel guilty, but i am so pleased with this i am seriously considering trying to pick up an aged #1 to complete the set...would have to view it as a bit of an investment though, as i dont have that chunk of change just lying around with nothing to do

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    Congrats. Can't see the player's side of the bridge from these picture angles - does yours have the extra hole mark by the bridge post like Mike's aged example?
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