I know what the vast # of replies on this forum will be, but basically, this is the question many Les Paul buyers will be facing. I figure the vast majority are going to choose the flamed "plus whatever they call it" standard. I'm kind of facing this question myself, as I am hankering after another 'bucker LP (traded my H8). How many of you guys feel as I do that the standard flametops are cutting into the resale value/desirability of the Historics in general?
$!600 to spend: Used Plaintop H or Flamed Standard?
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I believe the vast majority on this forum will feel as I do.
Historic. No doubt in my mind. I had the choice of a Standard Plus or an R7. I bought the R7 and have not regretted it for a second.
Historic. No doubt in my mind. I had the choice of a Standard Plus or an R7. I bought the R7 and have not regretted it for a second.
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As someone who's had both...
There's no question in my mind on which to suggest: the Historic. Even if you grab an R7 Goldtop, you'll be amazed at the difference in T O N E. No comparison really and I personally don't believe for a minute that the new Standards affect Historic sales one way or the other.
There's no question in my mind on which to suggest: the Historic. Even if you grab an R7 Goldtop, you'll be amazed at the difference in T O N E. No comparison really and I personally don't believe for a minute that the new Standards affect Historic sales one way or the other.
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No question - Used Historic Goldtop or Plaintop over the standard all day.
I guess I'd have to hear them side by side. I wasn't wowed by the tone of any of the H's I've owned ('56, '57, '58). I admit I bought the Goldtops primarily to resell (found a mint pair for $2700!) but if either one blew me away, I would have been happy to keep it. The R8 I traded last month. I know this will make me a pariah on this forum, but the best sounding LP I've ever played (acoustically and electrically) was an early 70's standard I used to play 6 nights/week. It was rather unsightly and I sold it many years ago to buy a Heritage 80 (that never sounded good but looked great). The H's I've owned sound "tight" to me. I imagine if they were gigged for 20 years they'd open up, but for now, they sound like "new" guitars (the Standards will as well). Anybody got a "real" LP for under 30G's?
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It's not going to make you a pariah. That's your experience and that's cool. You don't need anywhere close to $30,000 for a 70's LP. Go find the "one".
I think you must know I meant a '58-'60. Finding a good sounding 70's LP (or strat) is tough, most are 5 to 6 pieces of randomly selected heavy (not dried) wood, glued together to form a rather inert mass. Finding a toneful one is a real research project, but once in awhile a guitar that shouldn't sound good does, and that's a kicker. But I wouldn't spring for over $1000 on ANY 70's LP, no matter how good...
I think you must know I meant a '58-'60. Finding a good sounding 70's LP (or strat) is tough, most are 5 to 6 pieces of randomly selected heavy (not dried) wood, glued together to form a rather inert mass. Finding a toneful one is a real research project, but once in awhile a guitar that shouldn't sound good does, and that's a kicker. But I wouldn't spring for over $1000 on ANY 70's LP, no matter how good...
I prefer the historic stuff too.
I was playing "off the rack" Pauls back in the seventies and
they were great guitars. Hmmm...they cost about $550 new
and you got them used for $300.
Still I would have loved to have had todays Historic stuff back then to go out and gig with.
Still that old 70's version I do like.
And the ones they make today are just as good if not better,
It's not like they lost the formula or anything.
But I would choose a historic goldtop over one anytime.
Once I pick one of those up I dont want to pick up
a regular Paul.
I was playing "off the rack" Pauls back in the seventies and
they were great guitars. Hmmm...they cost about $550 new
and you got them used for $300.
Still I would have loved to have had todays Historic stuff back then to go out and gig with.
Still that old 70's version I do like.
And the ones they make today are just as good if not better,
It's not like they lost the formula or anything.
But I would choose a historic goldtop over one anytime.
Once I pick one of those up I dont want to pick up
a regular Paul.
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Litcrit said:
Good luck finding one for under a grand that isn't routed/hacked/repaired =)
My vote is for the Historic btw, I haven't played any newer Standards that sound as good, & that's the bottom line for me.