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  1. #401
    Les Paul Forum Member mkeditor's Avatar
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    Re: Upgrade Plastics Comparision Thread



    I just bought a set of Gotoh aged tuners and installed Uncle Lou's tips. Everything was great until I went to tune the guitar with the new strings. One of the tips gave half a turn then spun loose. The shaft of the Gotoh is flat on two sides and don't have the "fins" or spearhead shape of other tuners. Therefore they don't have as much bite on the tips. I super glued it but I'm concerned that another could break loose. Has anyone else had trouble with the Gotoh shafts?

    I just wish the Gotoh tips were the correct color to begin with.



    Having said that, the tuners look awesome with Lou's tips and a bit of my movie magic aging.

    Here they are half way through the process:

    Last edited by mkeditor; 07-20-14 at 08:29 AM.

  2. #402

    Re: Upgrade Plastics Comparision Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by mkeditor View Post
    He's my latest LP with upgrades:

    I like those Montreux Rings. Which version are they? Original or Time Machine Version 2? Thanks!

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    Les Paul Forum Member mkeditor's Avatar
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    Re: Upgrade Plastics Comparision Thread

    I normally keep pretty good records but I can't find any info on these rings. Sorry.

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    Re: Upgrade Plastics Comparision Thread

    Ehm.... Any of you Historians out there willing to sell me their (now redundant) Gibson Historic cream pickup rings + washer....?

    Thanks!

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    Les Paul Forum Member TM1's Avatar
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    Re: Upgrade Plastics Comparision Thread

    I wonder if Gibson is going to sell any of the new "True Historic" parts? they do look pretty damn nice.

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    Re: Upgrade Plastics Comparision Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by TM1 View Post
    I wonder if Gibson is going to sell any of the new "True Historic" parts? they do look pretty damn nice.
    I think they will, because there is a demand - so they se the $$$

    This is a sunlight comparsion between a cc#2 with the actual Art of Aging Plastic Set and a cc#5 with the actual true Historic specs....
    I just think, that the picguard of the true historics seems to be a bit yellowish to me in direct comparsion....
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  7. #407

    Re: Upgrade Plastics Comparision Thread

    Question: Is RS not doing replacement parts anymore?
    "So I let the poison go, 'cause baby I always know it'll be there for me"

  8. #408

    Re: Upgrade Plastics Comparision Thread

    Anyone know how to age the new looking Uncle Lou tips so they looked like the aged version?

  9. #409

    Re: Upgrade Plastics Comparision Thread

    Anyone know how to DIY that nice greening you see on the underneath edge of these Area 59/DMC gold bonnets?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ulli View Post
    Area59 aged "Hyhat Knob" (left);
    Gibson 2010 Historic stock (right)







  10. #410
    Les Paul Forum Member corpse's Avatar
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    Re: Upgrade Plastics Comparision Thread

    No experience with this- but I'd say hit them with steel wool underneath and paint them dark green.
    I lightly sanded mine with 0000 steel wool for patina, but the modern gold paint is likely without bronze in it so it won't oxidize like the originals. It's just too bright.
    But your (great BTW) pic of the two knobs shows the real issue; it's the urethane media turning amber/brown. I took some modern barrel knobs and left them out in the sun for a couple weeks in Atl and they didn't budge. That's why guys that sell the aged parts get the jing they do.

  11. #411

    Re: Upgrade Plastics Comparision Thread

    2004 gloss R8 owned since new. Many miles...











    Mojotone Vintage-fit pickguard
    Creamtone Vintage rings
    RS aged knobs, pointers, Klusons, and switch tip
    Creamtone jack plate (not seen)
    Stock Gibson poker chip

    (also...
    Vintage relic aged wireless ABR
    RS knurled nut
    Antiquities with A4 magnets
    Pigtail studs
    Naturally aged Gibson aluminum tailpiece
    RS CTS pots
    Vintage 50's bumblebee 400V caps)
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    Last edited by les strat; 02-14-17 at 11:31 AM.
    "So I let the poison go, 'cause baby I always know it'll be there for me"

  12. #412

    Re: Upgrade Plastics Comparision Thread

    Creamtone vintage M69 ring (left) vs stock 2004 Historic ring (with lots of wear lol)

    "So I let the poison go, 'cause baby I always know it'll be there for me"

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    Re: Upgrade Plastics Comparision Thread

    So am I able to order TH replacement rings and pickguard for my Goldie? Has this been determined yet?

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    Re: Upgrade Plastics Comparision Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Hot_Snake View Post
    Montreux vs. stock Gibson Historic :










    I got the Montreux time machine 59 knobs (on the right) compared with Gibson factory knobs (left) . Montreux time machine are of incredible quality. right color, shape. Even the dent on the top of the knob which I rarely see with high end knobs on this thread.
    Last edited by jkater; 09-03-18 at 01:52 PM.

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    Re: Upgrade Plastics Comparision Thread

    My old 2004 R8

    Montreux parts were great.
    I kept poker ring / jack plate / knobs from them of this guitar.
    Poker ring nut was replaced by a Retrospec (why dont they make them anymore ?).
    Switch tip was replaced by a DMC.
    M69 rings were replaced by OTPG ones, less white and more bone colour. Good improvement.
    Pickguard was replaced by a MojoAxe one.

    Sold the guitar to buy a '59 ES330T.
    I now have a 2016 TH58 ... i loved this 2004 R8 but the TH58 is so much better (feel / sound / weight)
    I couldn't help myself to tweak the TH58 on some parts but didn't took any before / after pics.

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    Re: Upgrade Plastics Comparision Thread

    Wizz Vintage Wire Pups (with 1962 SG PAF Mags)
    Over The Pond Rings (Vintage Haven)
    Dave Johnson Relic Pickguard
    Montreux Time Machine Collection 59 Relic Truss Rod Cover
    Montreux Time Machine Collection 59 Cream Relic Jackplate
    Montreux Time Machine Collection Toggle Switch Nut
    Montreux Retrovibe Series Relic Gold Bell Knobs
    Montreux Switchcraft Short Toggle Switch
    Montreux Switchcraft Mono Military Jack
    59Parts Aged Toggle Switch Plate
    Jensen .022uF Copper Foil / Paper in Oil Audio Caps
    Precision Electronics Corporation Military Spec Pots


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    Re: Upgrade Plastics Comparision Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by duaneflowers View Post
    Wizz Vintage Wire Pups (with 1962 SG PAF Mags)
    Over The Pond Rings (Vintage Haven)
    Dave Johnson Relic Pickguard
    Montreux Time Machine Collection 59 Relic Truss Rod Cover
    Montreux Time Machine Collection 59 Cream Relic Jackplate
    Montreux Time Machine Collection Toggle Switch Nut
    Montreux Retrovibe Series Relic Gold Bell Knobs
    Montreux Switchcraft Short Toggle Switch
    Montreux Switchcraft Mono Military Jack
    59Parts Aged Toggle Switch Plate
    Jensen .022uF Copper Foil / Paper in Oil Audio Caps
    Precision Electronics Corporation Military Spec Pots






    Beautiful!

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    Re: Upgrade Plastics Comparision Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by junior beast View Post
    Anyone know how to age the new looking Uncle Lou tips so they looked like the aged version?
    Dan Erlewine did this to some replacement Klusons he installed on a 335 he was working on belonging to Rich Robinson, a video of this can be found on YouTube with a quick search. I had a can of Amber-tinted nitro lacquer hanging around my garage and, after spraying a small amount into a cup, wiped it on my Klusons and quickly wiped it off. Turned out surprisingly well, just enough to age them a bit.
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