Has anyone applied CARNAUBA Wax to their gibson??

newlpownerhere · 01-13-05, 05:22 PM

I was cleaning the Lester for the first time yesterday and I when I was done i had some redish tint from the back of the guitar on the cloth!!! Please tell me this is normal PLEEASSEEE :wtf

fiddleback · 01-13-05, 07:05 PM

dude...i hope you mean dunlop guitar carnuba, or similar and not freakin' car wax.

did it mar the finish on the back? pics?
you might be ok...
but one shouldn't be hasty with the nitro.

newlpownerhere · 01-13-05, 07:28 PM

Twaz dunlop 65 CARNAUBA wax, suposibly safe on all guitars

modoc_333 · 01-13-05, 08:44 PM

i can't comment directly on that stuff, but i've found that guitars rarely (if ever) need anything more than a nice clean cloth to look their best.

Kim R · 01-13-05, 09:14 PM

newlp...

Historic LP's are finished with several coats of nitro. The first coats on the back are tinted red with aniline dye. Usually two topcoats are applied over this that contain less dye. Since nitro is self-reactivating, when the topcoats are sprayed over the heavily tinted ones, some of that red dye leeches up into the topcoats. This gives the finished guitar a "3-D" appearance.

As the lacquer dries and begins to oxidize, some of the very top layer, along with the diluted red aniline, will come off with a lot of rubbing. You didn't hurt a thing. You might want to apply that wax very sparingly; it's pretty gummy stuff for instruments and is usually applied over very scratched surfaces to restore a shiny appearance.

Big Al · 01-13-05, 09:15 PM

I do not wax my axe.
Not a good idea, IMO. Laquer is hard and clear enough. I like a clean polished Laquer finish.

hirobiro · 01-13-05, 09:20 PM

maybe you just took off some overspray that the factory missed. i've done the carnuba thing on all my guitars with no problems. however, just to be safe, use it sparingly. congrats on your new guitar man. :dude

newlpownerhere · 01-13-05, 09:31 PM

U GUYS JUST MADE MY DAY!! THANK GOD FOR THESE FORUMS AND KNOLIGABLE PEOPLE LIKE U FOLKS!! Im sure I lost a couple of hairs over this but at least now that I know I'll be able to sleep hahaha,, thanks again guys! :spin

sickboy79 · 01-13-05, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by newlpownerhere

Twaz dunlop 65 CARNAUBA wax, suposibly safe on all guitars

I used that stuff for a couple years. I really liked it. Just haven't bought any lately. I didn't have any red tint on my polishing cloth.

Plankspanker · 01-14-05, 10:43 PM

I've been using Gerlitz Carnube Wax for many years, especially fine for Archtops;never had a problem with it. As mentioned above, it's probably the red analine dye Gibson uses. It's known to migrate thru the layers of finish;this shows up on some Historics on the fretboard binding.

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01-13-05, 05:22 PM	#1
newlpownerhere Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 16	Has anyone applied CARNAUBA Wax to their gibson?? I was cleaning the Lester for the first time yesterday and I when I was done i had some redish tint from the back of the guitar on the cloth!!! Please tell me this is normal PLEEASSEEE :wtf

01-13-05, 07:05 PM	#2
fiddleback Les Paul Froum Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 218	Re: Has anyone applied CARNAUBA Wax to their gibson?? dude...i hope you mean dunlop guitar carnuba, or similar and not freakin' car wax. did it mar the finish on the back? pics? you might be ok... but one shouldn't be hasty with the nitro.

01-13-05, 07:28 PM	#3
newlpownerhere Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 16	Re: Has anyone applied CARNAUBA Wax to their gibson?? Twaz dunlop 65 CARNAUBA wax, suposibly safe on all guitars

01-13-05, 08:44 PM	#4
modoc_333 Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Salty Ham, Alabama Posts: 3,139	Re: Has anyone applied CARNAUBA Wax to their gibson?? i can't comment directly on that stuff, but i've found that guitars rarely (if ever) need anything more than a nice clean cloth to look their best.

01-13-05, 09:14 PM	#5
Kim R Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Up where it's cold - Posts: 1,162	Re: Has anyone applied CARNAUBA Wax to their gibson?? newlp... Historic LP's are finished with several coats of nitro. The first coats on the back are tinted red with aniline dye. Usually two topcoats are applied over this that contain less dye. Since nitro is self-reactivating, when the topcoats are sprayed over the heavily tinted ones, some of that red dye leeches up into the topcoats. This gives the finished guitar a "3-D" appearance. As the lacquer dries and begins to oxidize, some of the very top layer, along with the diluted red aniline, will come off with a lot of rubbing. You didn't hurt a thing. You might want to apply that wax very sparingly; it's pretty gummy stuff for instruments and is usually applied over very scratched surfaces to restore a shiny appearance. __________________ ______________________ K

01-13-05, 09:15 PM	#6
Big Al In the Zone/Backstage Pass Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: South Lake Ontario Shoreline Posts: 6,582	Re: Has anyone applied CARNAUBA Wax to their gibson?? I do not wax my axe. Not a good idea, IMO. Laquer is hard and clear enough. I like a clean polished Laquer finish. __________________ Walk one hot coals, skid on razor blades.

01-13-05, 09:20 PM	#7
hirobiro Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Botoville Posts: 262	Re: Has anyone applied CARNAUBA Wax to their gibson?? maybe you just took off some overspray that the factory missed. i've done the carnuba thing on all my guitars with no problems. however, just to be safe, use it sparingly. congrats on your new guitar man. :dude __________________ How do you keep an idiot in suspense?...I'll tell you later.

01-13-05, 09:31 PM	#8
newlpownerhere Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 16	Re: Has anyone applied CARNAUBA Wax to their gibson?? U GUYS JUST MADE MY DAY!! THANK GOD FOR THESE FORUMS AND KNOLIGABLE PEOPLE LIKE U FOLKS!! Im sure I lost a couple of hairs over this but at least now that I know I'll be able to sleep hahaha,, thanks again guys! :spin

01-14-05, 10:43 PM	#10
Plankspanker Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Scorpion Butte, AZ Posts: 3,809	Re: Has anyone applied CARNAUBA Wax to their gibson?? I've been using Gerlitz Carnube Wax for many years, especially fine for Archtops;never had a problem with it. As mentioned above, it's probably the red analine dye Gibson uses. It's known to migrate thru the layers of finish;this shows up on some Historics on the fretboard binding.