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Old 04-20-13, 09:38 PM   #1
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Vintage Goldtop Finish Work

Who does the best vintage goldtop refinish work?
I've got a 57 that has a bad burst on it and I want to get it refinished.
Who does the best most authentic work, including aged plastic?
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Old 04-20-13, 10:15 PM   #2
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Re: Vintage Goldtop Finish Work

My vote goes to Historic Makeovers ...



... or Dave Johnson ...
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Old 04-21-13, 12:52 AM   #3
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Re: Vintage Goldtop Finish Work

Joel Wilkens. www.jwrestoration.com He can also relic, and check, if you want, but this was not one of those jobs.

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Old 04-21-13, 01:34 AM   #4
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Re: Vintage Goldtop Finish Work

IMHO, Dave Johnson is gold! If I could get a top only refin to my conversion, he would be my choice...
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Old 04-21-13, 01:59 AM   #5
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Re: Vintage Goldtop Finish Work

In my opinion I would go to Kim at historic makeovers, not only would you get a great authentic gold with as much as aging as you desired you would also get the work done in a reasonable time
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Old 04-21-13, 06:07 AM   #6
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Re: Vintage Goldtop Finish Work

One and Only Dave Johnson. How bout a picture of the 57 as it currently stands
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Old 04-21-13, 03:03 PM   #7
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Re: Vintage Goldtop Finish Work

Nothing against Joel's work at all, and maybe it's just the lighting and/or camera settings, but the gold on the refin looks a little off compared to what was under the 3-way cover...



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Old 04-21-13, 05:17 PM   #8
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Re: Vintage Goldtop Finish Work

Every guitar HM does is a masterpiece.
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Old 04-21-13, 05:52 PM   #9
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Re: Vintage Goldtop Finish Work

Scott Lentz in San Marcos, CA does outstanding *old-Gibson*
gold top finishes.
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Old 04-21-13, 06:32 PM   #10
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Re: Vintage Goldtop Finish Work

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Old 04-21-13, 06:46 PM   #11
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Re: Vintage Goldtop Finish Work

+1 for HM. Beautiful, authentic goldtop finishes, delivered in a timely fashion.
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Old 04-21-13, 06:49 PM   #12
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Re: Vintage Goldtop Finish Work

Actually, everybody who could paint a guitar with the ReRanch lacquer can do the paint job ... it gets kind of tricky when "distressing" is on the menu, too.
Here's a little conversion I painted with the ReRanch Gold and it turned out really nicely.

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Old 04-21-13, 07:20 PM   #13
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Re: Vintage Goldtop Finish Work

My vote goes to HM, Dave Johnson or Scott Lentz there refins are outstanding
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Old 04-21-13, 08:52 PM   #14
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Re: Vintage Goldtop Finish Work

DJ, HM, RS, then the rest.

That's the order of operations for me. If the guitar is a lifetime keeper, then the amount of time it takes to get the guitar isn't going to matter to me.
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Old 04-21-13, 10:23 PM   #15
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Re: Vintage Goldtop Finish Work

+1 for Dave Johnson!
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Old 04-22-13, 12:36 AM   #16
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Re: Vintage Goldtop Finish Work

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Old 04-22-13, 10:10 AM   #17
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Re: Vintage Goldtop Finish Work

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...FWIW Kim was one of the first (along with DJ I believe) who started regularly using the correct powder...
FWIW, nope. I can't remember their names right now (dammit), but there were a few finish guys using the right gold back in the 60's & 70's. They probably got their powder straight from Gibson or their original supplier back then, who knows? And Dave was shooting his gold before HM even existed.

For a vintage correct gold refin nowadays, KBarry, go with a shop that has:
(1) a history of high quality work on vintage Gibsons
(2) a proven track record of high resale value
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Old 04-22-13, 10:26 AM   #18
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Re: Vintage Goldtop Finish Work

Didn't Kim and Dave work together for a while? I know that Kim is turning out some great work over the last couple years. Would think either him or Dave would be a good bet.

You also can send your guitar to Gibson repair. I have had them do work for me in the past and it turned out well. Never had them do finish work though I admit.
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Old 04-22-13, 10:48 AM   #19
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Didn't Kim and Dave work together for a while?...
HM initially contracted to Dave to do all the guitar work out of his Olympia shop. HM now uses a group of people in Florida for all the work. Last I'd heard, Kip Elder was spraying HM's finishes.
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Old 04-22-13, 11:03 AM   #20
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Re: Vintage Goldtop Finish Work

I actually talked to Dave about doing some work for me. Asked about the historic makeover business and he said he will not do it anymore because of issues with the fretboards. Kim and RS are the best ones that I know of still doing it. Lays of Akron quoted me a price as did a shop out near Toledo (Jim's?) but they have a 2 yr wait,

Kim has a 4 mo wait and has it down to a science at a least with the makeovers. Good turnover and good product. Hard to beat right now IMHO. I think the refinish on a 50s should be pretty accurate as well.
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Old 04-22-13, 05:29 PM   #21
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Nothing against Joel's work at all, and maybe it's just the lighting and/or camera settings, but the gold on the refin looks a little off compared to what was under the 3-way cover...
It's the white balance. He did a friend's '68 to perfection. (See pic below.)

BTW, the request on the particular guitar to which you referred was to make it as close to new as possible. Why the owner wanted that, I don't know.

I have a project that is supposed to be sent to Dave Johnson at some point, whenever it gets finished, but I've been hearing so many nightmares about his turnaround time, that I might just send it to Joel. Anybody else know anything about that?

The main problem with getting GTs done is nobody knows how to age them properly. Joel can get the greening in the checking. The unfortunate thing about his website is that his best work is not on it. I'm assuming that it's because it's for the privacy of his customers. But he's done some restoration stuff I've seen that I'd say is better than DJ.

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Re: Vintage Goldtop Finish Work

BTW, here's a close up detail of a JW refin and relic job. NOBODY's checking looks this good. This is art, right here, if you care about detail that much.

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Old 04-22-13, 06:13 PM   #23
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Re: Vintage Goldtop Finish Work

There are a handful of folks who do excellent finish work on GoldTops. I think you need to research what you want and go with the person who you think will do it best. I've had both Dave & Kim do work for me. Both excellent & no complaints!
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BTW, here's a close up detail of a JW refin and relic job. NOBODY's checking looks this good. This is art, right here, if you care about detail that much.

That is the best looking aged refin I've ever seen, WOW.
I'd go with that guy based on this pic alone

edit: I just checked out the Goldtop restoration on JW's website, good stuff.
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Old 04-23-13, 06:00 AM   #25
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Re: Vintage Goldtop Finish Work

I went thru this same process. I chose Gord Miller of GM Vintage Restorations. His work speaks for itself. His customer service went a long way. He returned every email & call, & was a pleasure to work with. It goes a LONG way in this day & age.

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I went thru this same process. I chose Gord Miller of GM Vintage Restorations. His work speaks for itself. His customer service went a long way. He returned every email & call, & was a pleasure to work with. It goes a LONG way in this day & age.

Gord's a great guy ain't he! He gets too little recognition around here for his talents and his customer service skills!
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Old 04-23-13, 02:12 PM   #27
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Re: Vintage Goldtop Finish Work

Well...I have to admit I am partial to Kim and his guys..

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Old 04-23-13, 08:52 PM   #28
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Well...I have to admit I am partial to Kim and his guys..

Yeah, Kim's done 5 of mine! .
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