Sandy Collector's Choice #4 - Page 2

shred · 08-03-12, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Steven

If we want to discuss serious. What is making this CC so 'outstanding', a phrase/word often used by americans ? Is Henry fooling us like a helter-skelter ?
Ordinary R9 with sandwich fingerboard and uncovered Burstbuckers, cigarette burns and Gillette scars from the assembly line ?
Who can tell it from an average R9, if not for the very expensive COA.
Soundwise !

Your point extends beyond the CC's. What makes any Historic signature model special or significantly different than a regular R9? Whether you're talking Pearly's & Page's or CC's like Sandy & The Babe, they're all ultimately just Historic LP's.

The Ace Budokan makes the least sense to me. Why buy a 2012 copy of a Norlin for 6K when you can buy the real thing on CL for $2500?

You own Murphy aged, signature models and I don't see any significant difference between them and the CC runs.

Signature models including CC's and sig models of other makers are mostly for fans. If there is a difference, it's just in the specific electronics/mods, finishes and neck profiles...

I'm not crazy about the laminate boards, but I'm not into relicing either. I would never pay a couple thousand dollars to have a guitar artificially aged. I don't think it's a big deal, just preferences. Getting back to CC 4, I think the Sandy's have cool tops and the dirty lemon finish looks great.

MikeSlub · 08-03-12, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Cogswell

I really didn't want to ban you, but...
wait a minute
yes I did
I'm sure you think your observations are insightful & challenging the status quo, but in truth you are just a troll.

Too bad it had to come to this. I, for one, will miss his cheerful and upbeat posts.

supercubziggy · 08-03-12, 12:39 PM

Smashing guitar! Im a sucker for Dirty Lemons. What we really want to know is How does it sound??? How does "Sandy" compare to the stable?

bigsby'd · 08-03-12, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by poon99

Because we are male.

Sho' 'nuff.

Beautiful guitar Mike.

ufboy73 · 08-03-12, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cogswell

I really didn't want to ban you, but...
wait a minute
yes I did
I'm sure you think your observations are insightful & challenging the status quo, but in truth you are just a troll.

wait, dont tease us...is this for real? he is....gone? gone, gone??

Cody · 08-03-12, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ufboy73

wait, dont tease us...is this for real? he is....gone? gone, gone??

He does seem to be gone. Good humping riddance, too.

Mike, fantastic top!

MikeSlub · 08-03-12, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ufboy73

wait, dont tease us...is this for real? he is....gone? gone, gone??

Cogs never teases.

CDaughtry · 08-03-12, 01:18 PM

Let this be a lesson to all: We can all be an ass some of the time, but we can't be an ass ALL of the time!

shred · 08-03-12, 01:19 PM

I completely disagree that Steven is a troll and in my opinion shouldn't be banned for any of his posts to this thread. He's been saying stuff like this for years so why now? MikeS wasn't bothered by it in the least... Like Stock Hippie, he adds a little color to the place, but unlike Hippie at least he owns a Les Paul or 40... It's not like he's an internet psycho like Nico or the Emperor... He's just a confrontational grouch... I think the ban should be lifted...

Classic71 · 08-03-12, 01:27 PM

Congrats Mike, and well done on getting the "ad guitar"! Looks great

guitarmandp · 08-03-12, 01:40 PM

Is this the first Gibson you've owned Mike where you think Gibson did a good job with the aging?

In the past you've been a fan of Murphy's work but you didn't like the aging on some of your other guitars such as the Felder and the Clapton 335

MikeSlub · 08-03-12, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by guitarmandp

Is this the first Gibson you've owned Mike where you think Gibson did a good job with the aging?

In the past you've been a fan of Murphy's work but you didn't like the aging on some of your other guitars such as the Felder and the Clapton 335

Yes, they've finally learned how to age a guitar IMHO.

fjminor · 08-03-12, 01:55 PM

Congrats Mike...a very sweet Sandy indeed..

MikeSlub · 08-03-12, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TW59

I would be happy to sign it, if you really want me to.

Yes, I really want you to! We have to figure out how to get this accomplished!

Cogswell · 08-03-12, 02:16 PM

You send it to me, I'll send it to Tom. The whole process should only take a couple of years

MikeSlub · 08-03-12, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Cogswell

You send it to me, I'll send it to Tom. The whole process should only take a couple of years.

Thanks, Cogs. I know I can always count on you.

CoolJoMark · 08-03-12, 02:52 PM

Mike,
might have missed this but what is the weight? similar to the original? Does Gibson even try and take it that far as to try and pick bodies and tops that will weigh close to the original CCs?

MikeSlub · 08-03-12, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CoolJoMark

Mike,
might have missed this but what is the weight? similar to the original? Does Gibson even try and take it that far as to try and pick bodies and tops that will weigh close to the original CCs?

Haven't weighed it, but will do so. Feels like the mid 8 lbs. range.

corpse · 08-03-12, 03:21 PM

First Mike great addition- they really nailed the looks. i hope it has that vintage weight thing going on like some of the 2009's- they were 8.9lbs but felt "airy".
I would love to hear a clip thru your BFDR if you are so inclined.

corpse · 08-03-12, 03:24 PM

Bugman58 · 08-03-12, 05:18 PM

Hey Mike u cant have or show that sandy!!!!! Its not released un till 8/8. please put it away,,

MikeSlub · 08-03-12, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugman58

Hey Mike u cant have or show that sandy!!!!! Its not released un till 8/8. please put it away,,

Sorry Joe -- didn't know that. I guess I've been a bad boy!

Bugman58 · 08-03-12, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeSlub

Sorry Joe -- didn't know that. I guess I've been a bad boy!

Its funny,, Dealer"s had to take down the pics of sandy because the official release date is 8/8. U rock mike and thats one fine sandy u have there my friend,,,,

Pat Boyack · 08-03-12, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by shred

I completely disagree that Steven is a troll and in my opinion shouldn't be banned for any of his posts to this thread. He's been saying stuff like this for years so why now? MikeS wasn't bothered by it in the least... Like Stock Hippie, he adds a little color to the place, but unlike Hippie at least he owns a Les Paul or 40... It's not like he's an internet psycho like Nico or the Emperor... He's just a confrontational grouch... I think the ban should be lifted...

+1

shred · 08-03-12, 07:56 PM

Thanks Pat...

I don't like the 'if you can't beat 'em, ban 'em mentality...' If you don't like what someone says, ignore or out-argue them but don't censor...

If Cogs had given me a little more time, I would have taken him out in a dazzling display of logic anyway...

MikeSlub · 08-03-12, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by shred

Thanks Pat.

Well, that's two votes for reinstatement.

shred · 08-03-12, 08:07 PM

Not 3 Mike?

MikeSlub · 08-03-12, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by CoolJoMark

Mike,
might have missed this but what is the weight? similar to the original? Does Gibson even try and take it that far as to try and pick bodies and tops that will weigh close to the original CCs?

Well, it's heavier than I thought. 8 lbs. 12 oz. Perhaps it's the weight of that glue in the laminated fretboard...

MikeSlub · 08-03-12, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by shred

Not 3 Mike?

Like I said, I will miss him.

shred · 08-03-12, 08:38 PM

Anyways... Congrats, you got a killer Sandy

Hardrockmapletop · 08-03-12, 09:53 PM

I'd just like to submit my vote for a "Roll of Honor" for those forum member that have left us, and while we're at it, how 'bout a "Roll of Dishonor" for those that got a swift boot up the rear end!

Pat Boyack · 08-03-12, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeSlub

Well, that's two votes for reinstatement.

Didn't Steve once post that he thought you spent $3,000 a year on carpet cleaning? That alone right there would have pissed me off sideways. Good to see you are keeping things civil. Great guitar by the way.

The Greek · 08-03-12, 10:52 PM

Thanks for those awesome pics Mike!Great guitar!

tonar8353 · 08-03-12, 11:25 PM

That's a beauty!

D'Mule · 08-03-12, 11:46 PM

Kind of miss Bluejazz right about now...

CDaughtry · 08-04-12, 05:30 AM

I'm certainly not for banning people just because they're an occasional ass. or because they disagree with people when there's so logic behind their argument.
But when someone is consistently an ass, never offers ANYTHING useful, and is just mean spirited, they really just need to take their vitriol elsewhere.

The Greek · 08-04-12, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by CDaughtry

I'm certainly not for banning people just because they're an occasional ass. or because they disagree with people when there's so logic behind their argument.
But when someone is consistently an ass, never offers ANYTHING useful, and is just mean spirited, they really just need to take their vitriol elsewhere.

+1000

BTW- Your guitar collection -as well as Mike's of course- is sublime...

Musicman · 08-04-12, 05:57 AM

It's beautiful Mike but I have a question for you or Tom. I remember Sandy through the years here but don't remember that jack plate. It looks like your pic shows this model comes with a metal plate behind the plastic plate. Is that what I'm seeing and if so what type of metal is used? I'm assuming it's for stability since the plastic tears etc.. Thanks and enjoy your new addition!

MikeSlub · 08-04-12, 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Musicman

It's beautiful Mike but I have a question for you or Tom. I remember Sandy through the years here but don't remember that jack plate. It looks like your pic shows this model comes with a metal plate behind the plastic plate. Is that what I'm seeing and if so what type of metal is used? I'm assuming it's for stability since the plastic tears etc.. Thanks and enjoy your new addition!

You have good eyes. There is indeed a metal plate under it. I'm assuming that is because The original Sandy has it. The plastic jack plate on mine also has one corner broken off, and I don't know whether that was on purpose to emulate the original or whether mine was damaged in shipping. I'm hoping that Tom Wittrock will chime in on this one.

Musicman · 08-04-12, 06:27 AM

I did some research and found this http://www.guitarvillage.co.uk/produ...4+Sandy%2C+New

I'm sure Tom will fill us in on the particulars.

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08-03-12, 12:39 PM	#43
supercubziggy Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 39	Re: Sandy Collector's Choice #4 Smashing guitar! Im a sucker for Dirty Lemons. What we really want to know is How does it sound??? How does "Sandy" compare to the stable?

08-03-12, 01:18 PM	#48
CDaughtry In the Zone/Backstage Pass Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 8,866	Re: Sandy Collector's Choice #4 Let this be a lesson to all: We can all be an ass some of the time, but we can't be an ass ALL of the time! __________________ www.reverbnation.com/therelicsrock www.soundclick.com/charlesdaughtry www.charlesdaughtry.com (Photographs)

08-03-12, 01:19 PM	#49
shred Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: That left turn at Albuquerque.... Posts: 2,272	Re: Sandy Collector's Choice #4 I completely disagree that Steven is a troll and in my opinion shouldn't be banned for any of his posts to this thread. He's been saying stuff like this for years so why now? MikeS wasn't bothered by it in the least... Like Stock Hippie, he adds a little color to the place, but unlike Hippie at least he owns a Les Paul or 40... It's not like he's an internet psycho like Nico or the Emperor... He's just a confrontational grouch... I think the ban should be lifted... __________________ https://www.facebook.com/omnisight Live: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87DeIstQqac Promo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvrLudHMO7Q My other band: http://moonlightmile.bandcamp.com/track/going-down Last edited by shred : 08-03-12 at 01:39 PM.

08-03-12, 01:27 PM	#50
Classic71 Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,740	Re: Sandy Collector's Choice #4 Congrats Mike, and well done on getting the "ad guitar"! Looks great

08-03-12, 01:40 PM	#51
guitarmandp Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 861	Re: Sandy Collector's Choice #4 Is this the first Gibson you've owned Mike where you think Gibson did a good job with the aging? In the past you've been a fan of Murphy's work but you didn't like the aging on some of your other guitars such as the Felder and the Clapton 335

08-03-12, 01:55 PM	#53
fjminor Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Between Nothingness and Eternity Posts: 3,305	Re: Sandy Collector's Choice #4 Congrats Mike...a very sweet Sandy indeed.. __________________ "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after low pricing is forgotten! "

08-03-12, 02:16 PM	#55
Cogswell Forum Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 13,108	Re: Sandy Collector's Choice #4 You send it to me, I'll send it to Tom. The whole process should only take a couple of years __________________ The faster we go, the rounder we get www.cafewah.com

08-03-12, 02:52 PM	#57
CoolJoMark Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 349	Re: Sandy Collector's Choice #4 Mike, might have missed this but what is the weight? similar to the original? Does Gibson even try and take it that far as to try and pick bodies and tops that will weigh close to the original CCs?

08-03-12, 03:21 PM	#59
corpse Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cumming, GA Posts: 1,407	Re: Sandy Collector's Choice #4 First Mike great addition- they really nailed the looks. i hope it has that vintage weight thing going on like some of the 2009's- they were 8.9lbs but felt "airy". I would love to hear a clip thru your BFDR if you are so inclined.

08-03-12, 03:24 PM	#60
corpse Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cumming, GA Posts: 1,407	Re: Sandy Collector's Choice #4 . Last edited by corpse : 08-04-12 at 10:19 AM.

08-03-12, 05:18 PM	#61
Bugman58 Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: N.Phoenix,,az Posts: 282	Re: Sandy Collector's Choice #4 Hey Mike u cant have or show that sandy!!!!! Its not released un till 8/8. please put it away,,

08-03-12, 07:56 PM	#65
shred Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: That left turn at Albuquerque.... Posts: 2,272	Re: Sandy Collector's Choice #4 Thanks Pat... I don't like the 'if you can't beat 'em, ban 'em mentality...' If you don't like what someone says, ignore or out-argue them but don't censor... If Cogs had given me a little more time, I would have taken him out in a dazzling display of logic anyway... __________________ https://www.facebook.com/omnisight Live: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87DeIstQqac Promo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvrLudHMO7Q My other band: http://moonlightmile.bandcamp.com/track/going-down Last edited by shred : 08-03-12 at 08:28 PM.

08-03-12, 08:07 PM	#67
shred Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: That left turn at Albuquerque.... Posts: 2,272	Re: Sandy Collector's Choice #4 Not 3 Mike? __________________ https://www.facebook.com/omnisight Live: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87DeIstQqac Promo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvrLudHMO7Q My other band: http://moonlightmile.bandcamp.com/track/going-down

08-03-12, 08:38 PM	#70
shred Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: That left turn at Albuquerque.... Posts: 2,272	Re: Sandy Collector's Choice #4 Anyways... Congrats, you got a killer Sandy __________________ https://www.facebook.com/omnisight Live: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87DeIstQqac Promo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvrLudHMO7Q My other band: http://moonlightmile.bandcamp.com/track/going-down

08-03-12, 09:53 PM	#71
Hardrockmapletop All Access/Backstage Pass Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Back To Bali Posts: 605	Re: Sandy Collector's Choice #4 I'd just like to submit my vote for a "Roll of Honor" for those forum member that have left us, and while we're at it, how 'bout a "Roll of Dishonor" for those that got a swift boot up the rear end!

08-03-12, 10:52 PM	#73
The Greek Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Thessaloniki/GREECE Posts: 81	Re: Sandy Collector's Choice #4 Thanks for those awesome pics Mike!Great guitar!

08-03-12, 11:25 PM	#74
tonar8353 Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 155	Re: Sandy Collector's Choice #4 That's a beauty!

08-04-12, 05:30 AM	#76
CDaughtry In the Zone/Backstage Pass Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 8,866	Re: Sandy Collector's Choice #4 I'm certainly not for banning people just because they're an occasional ass. or because they disagree with people when there's so logic behind their argument. But when someone is consistently an ass, never offers ANYTHING useful, and is just mean spirited, they really just need to take their vitriol elsewhere. __________________ www.reverbnation.com/therelicsrock www.soundclick.com/charlesdaughtry www.charlesdaughtry.com (Photographs)

08-04-12, 05:57 AM	#78
Musicman Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: In a cave and grooving with a pict... Posts: 1,233	Re: Sandy Collector's Choice #4 It's beautiful Mike but I have a question for you or Tom. I remember Sandy through the years here but don't remember that jack plate. It looks like your pic shows this model comes with a metal plate behind the plastic plate. Is that what I'm seeing and if so what type of metal is used? I'm assuming it's for stability since the plastic tears etc.. Thanks and enjoy your new addition!

08-04-12, 06:27 AM	#80
Musicman Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: In a cave and grooving with a pict... Posts: 1,233	Re: Sandy Collector's Choice #4 I did some research and found this http://www.guitarvillage.co.uk/produ...4+Sandy%2C+New I'm sure Tom will fill us in on the particulars.