A Ton of 58 reissue"s

Bugman58 · 04-30-12, 07:00 PM

Im not sure were I expect this thread to go and its not spam. But Daves guitars has 62 or so R8"s in stock,,, CRAZY,,,, I am a big fan of R8s because I like bigger necks. So I have bought a few from this shop because they always have a huge selection in stock. But dam if they dont have me gassing for a new one. Even the plaintop vos have some figure to them. There may not be as many R9"S out there this year but there is no shortage of R8S from what I can see.

Guitar Whiskey · 04-30-12, 07:55 PM

Some of those plain tops have as much flame as an original burst. That's a lot of 2012 R8's to move.

Bugman58 · 04-30-12, 09:27 PM

there all not 2012. I would say about 30 are 2012 plus they have a bunch of the daves ann, models. But I was shocked and yes that is a lot of guitars to move these days.

burstman59 · 04-30-12, 11:23 PM

Yeah I noticed this as well. I have said on here a few times if Gibson would do some R8s with lightly figured tops and different finishes they would sell. And its not just here in the States. I've noticed alot of overseas dealers getting some nice R8s. Not to take away form R9s but alot of the 2011 and 2012 R8s have nice authentic looking real burst type flame. Where as the really nice flame is going on the CC series and the higher end R9s. I noticed most 2012s Custom shop guitars are coming in the new reissue style brown cases but built better than the earlier brown cases. You can get them in about any variation of color and fade as well. I love the Western Desert fade. Kinda of a Tea burst but with a tad more red in it.

DANELECTRO · 05-01-12, 04:56 AM

There are quite a few under 8.5 lbs and some great looking tops.

I had to quit looking before I tossed one into the cart.

tdarian · 05-01-12, 08:07 AM

Uh-Oh.

herb · 05-01-12, 09:24 AM

Those figured top R8's are about $850 more than the Plaintop R8s.

axeman565758 · 05-01-12, 12:00 PM

Joe, I saw his stock a few weeks back (online) There were some beauties and the prices were very competative......problem was (for me) necks were all in the ..895"-.915" range and very slight shoulders.....that took me out of the running

MRTONEMAN · 05-01-12, 12:24 PM

Some are jaw dropping like this one listed as a plaintop, yet mildly flamed.

Bugman58 · 05-01-12, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MRTONEMAN

Some are jaw dropping like this one listed as a plaintop, yet mildly flamed.

For the price of a plaintop you can not go wrong with that one!!!!!!!

Bugman58 · 05-01-12, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by axeman565758

Joe, I saw his stock a few weeks back (online) There were some beauties and the prices were very competative......problem was (for me) necks were all in the ..895"-.915" range and very slight shoulders.....that took me out of the running

Wow Thats small for an R8 the last two I got from them the necks were much bigger. Thats R9 spec

houndog31 · 05-01-12, 07:14 PM

Whatever technique Dave's is using on the photography it's strange. The contrast is pumped, to wash out the white background it appears, but it has an overall effect on the photo. It's impossible to tell what the guitar actually looks like.

herb · 05-01-12, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MRTONEMAN

Some are jaw dropping like this one listed as a plaintop, yet mildly flamed.

That's the one that caught my eye, too. That is badass.

Bugman58 · 05-01-12, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by houndog31

Whatever technique Dave's is using on the photography it's strange. The contrast is pumped, to wash out the white background it appears, but it has an overall effect on the photo. It's impossible to tell what the guitar actually looks like.

I agree, They have made changes in there way of taking and showing pics and its still not good. the only one who does it right is mark's guitar loft,,,,,

tdarian · 05-01-12, 09:02 PM

I think their web photography has always been an inaccurate respresentation.
These photos below are exaggerated in terms of detail and contrast to what this looks like in person, particularly the BRW neck. Not to change the subject matter because those R8s look cool and I'd actually love to go up there and see them.

MRTONEMAN · 05-02-12, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by houndog31

Whatever technique Dave's is using on the photography it's strange. The contrast is pumped, to wash out the white background it appears, but it has an overall effect on the photo. It's impossible to tell what the guitar actually looks like.

Well, I bought a used mildy flamed R8 from Dave's. It caught my eye because it also had a vintage vibe to it. Once received, it looked close enough to the web pictures, that I had no issues regarding their photography.

houndog31 · 05-02-12, 06:02 PM

Here's an example of what I mean. Obviously these are two different guitars and comparing Bursts is not an exact science to begin with, but the imaging characteristics are evident.

Both similar looking plain Lemon tops. I bet these two guitars look very close side by side in real life.

The top photo is the older style from Dave's website. The light is a bit warm but relatively accurate for most natural household situations.

The newer example below uses a much more harsh angled light (evident in the tailpiece & the shadow on the bottom) and the contrast is pumped up. This does show grain patterns much
better but it's not what that guitar would look like in most natural light situations. You can also see that the colour of the inlays and plastic are affected by the shadow and highlight boost.

Personally I would feel very comfortable buying the top guitar over the phone. The bottom one I'd want new pics or an in-person viewing.

goldtop0 · 05-02-12, 06:26 PM

Good lord they're great looking LPs for sure.
Me I'd be in for a lighter one 8-8.5lbs if I had the $$ right now.

kingsxman · 05-02-12, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by houndog31

Whatever technique Dave's is using on the photography it's strange. The contrast is pumped, to wash out the white background it appears, but it has an overall effect on the photo. It's impossible to tell what the guitar actually looks like.

I agree. Been like that for awhile. Cant see the binding. They all look like studios...

MRTONEMAN · 05-03-12, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by houndog31

Here's an example of what I mean. Obviously these are two different guitars and comparing Bursts is not an exact science to begin with, but the imaging characteristics are evident.

Both similar looking plain Lemon tops. I bet these two guitars look very close side by side in real life.

The top photo is the older style from Dave's website. The light is a bit warm but relatively accurate for most natural household situations.

The newer example below uses a much more harsh angled light (evident in the tailpiece & the shadow on the bottom) and the contrast is pumped up. This does show grain patterns much
better but it's not what that guitar would look like in most natural light situations. You can also see that the colour of the inlays and plastic are affected by the shadow and highlight boost.

Personally I would feel very comfortable buying the top guitar over the phone. The bottom one I'd want new pics or an in-person viewing.

So, for all your 'analysis' have you actually bought an R8 from him to come to these conclusions, as I have? The funny thing is the one I 'did' buy from them, actually had more flame in person that in his web pics, which is exactly opposite of what you are trying to infer.

houndog31 · 05-03-12, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MRTONEMAN

So, for all your 'analysis' have you actually bought an R8 from him to come to these conclusions, as I have? The funny thing is the one I 'did' buy from them, actually had more flame in person that in his web pics, which is exactly opposite of what you are trying to infer.

It's not actually. But with 30 years of pro photo experience I stand by my "analysis" regardless of who can tell the difference or not. But if you're happy with how yours worked out that's cool.

Minibucker · 05-03-12, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MRTONEMAN

So, for all your 'analysis' have you actually bought an R8 from him to come to these conclusions, as I have? The funny thing is the one I 'did' buy from them, actually had more flame in person that in his web pics, which is exactly opposite of what you are trying to infer.

Do you have the original site pictures?

MRTONEMAN · 05-03-12, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by houndog31

It's not actually. But with 30 years of pro photo experience I stand by my "analysis" regardless of who can tell the difference or not. But if you're happy with how yours worked out that's cool.

Here is the one I bought. I just took a quick simple picture of it for you. This was sold as an R8 plaintop with "mild flame''. I cannot be happier with what I received vs what it looked like on their website. I did not save the website pictures.

houndog31 · 05-03-12, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MRTONEMAN

Here is the one I bought. I just took a quick simple picture of it for you. This was sold as an R8 plaintop with "mild flame''. I cannot be happier with what I received vs what it looked like on their website. I did not save the website pictures.

Very nice indeed. I like it.

But I bet their online photo, if they used the same style that I have an issue with, looked nothing like that on the website. The fact that you were pleased in the end is great to hear but betcha that guitar looked different than you thought it did when you opened the case ... especially the colour. Me I don't like surprises

In fact your "quick simple" photo as you call it is way more accurate, I would be very happy using that for reference.

MRTONEMAN · 05-03-12, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by houndog31

Very nice indeed. I like it.

But I bet their online photo, if they used the same style that I have an issue with, looked nothing like that on the website. The fact that you were pleased in the end is great to hear but betcha that guitar looked different than you thought it did when you opened the case ... especially the colour. Me I don't like surprises

In fact your "quick simple" photo as you call it is way more accurate, I would be very happy using that for reference.

The point of my photo was to show how much flame they can have in person. My photo is accurate in that regard. I would not use my photo as a 'color reference' since the flash makes it look much redder than it really is. The guitar is actually "Ice Tea" in person. When purchased, it was shown on Dave's website pictures as Ice Tea also. His web pictures were actually a closer representation of the guitars true coloring, than my quick flash photo.

MRTONEMAN · 05-03-12, 08:52 PM

Here it is now with no flash.

Minibucker · 05-03-12, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by houndog31

Very nice indeed. I like it.

But I bet their online photo, if they used the same style that I have an issue with, looked nothing like that on the website. The fact that you were pleased in the end is great to hear but betcha that guitar looked different than you thought it did when you opened the case ... especially the colour. Me I don't like surprises

In fact your "quick simple" photo as you call it is way more accurate, I would be very happy using that for reference.

Now if dating sites would just use pictures of people rolling out of bed in the morning......

;-)

burstman59 · 05-03-12, 11:53 PM

Wow MRTONEMAN that thing is beautiful. Wished I had saw it 1st. I did wind up with a nice 2011 R8 Stinger that is nice too. I love the color. The tone and it plays better than any new out of the box guitar Ive played, the only problem is its a tad heavy. Probably 9.5 lbs. Sounds killer too.

MRTONEMAN · 05-04-12, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by burstman59

Wow MRTONEMAN that thing is beautiful. Wished I had saw it 1st. I did wind up with a nice 2011 R8 Stinger that is nice too. I love the color. The tone and it plays better than any new out of the box guitar Ive played, the only problem is its a tad heavy. Probably 9.5 lbs. Sounds killer too.

Thanks, The only negative side to mine was it really needed a setup bad when I got it. I worked with it, because, it was otherwise so desirable, in terms of flame, neck-profile, color, and being super-light (8.1 pounds), especially for an "R8". Now it plays as well as it looks.

Bugman58 · 05-04-12, 03:33 PM

I picked up this killer R8 from daves the other day. I knew I could not resist. they told me they have a lot more coming also,,, crazy,, i asked how will they sell them all, Dave said there guitars they dont go bad. I will post more pics when I get it tomorrow. a tease for now

herb · 05-04-12, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugman58

I picked up this killer R8 from daves the other day. I knew I could not resist. they told me they have a lot more coming also,,, crazy,, i asked how will they sell them all, Dave said there guitars they dont go bad. I will post more pics when I get it tomorrow. a tease for now

Nice looker, Bugman!

c_wester · 05-05-12, 02:46 AM

GotTheSilver · 05-05-12, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Bugman58

I picked up this killer R8 from daves the other day. I knew I could not resist. they told me they have a lot more coming also,,, crazy,, i asked how will they sell them all, Dave said there guitars they dont go bad. I will post more pics when I get it tomorrow. a tease for now

Cool guitar. Congrats! Hope it plays and sounds as great as it looks. Enjoy!

Bugman58 · 05-05-12, 09:27 AM

Waiting for the DAM truck to come. Got address wrong at first but its still coming, soon I hope

D'Mule · 05-05-12, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MRTONEMAN

Here is the one I bought. I just took a quick simple picture of it for you. This was sold as an R8 plaintop with "mild flame''. I cannot be happier with what I received vs what it looked like on their website. I did not save the website pictures.

I bet this is how it looks onstage under the lights! Love it!

corpse · 05-05-12, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugman58

Waiting for the DAM truck to come. Got address wrong at first but its still coming, soon I hope

Bugman
That's the wrong use of the word "DAM"- when UPS gets the address wrong it's the "Fucking" truck.
FYI.

Bugman58 · 05-05-12, 02:21 PM

Your right,, well it came about two hrs ago. I have been playing it and taking pics and will post a thread soon.

tdarian · 05-05-12, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugman58

Your right,, well it came about two hrs ago. I have been playing it and taking pics and will post a thread soon.

Looking forward to your NGD thread!

tdarian · 05-05-12, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugman58

Your right,, well it came about two hrs ago. I have been playing it and taking pics and will post a thread soon.

Looking forward to your NGD thread!

Bugman58 · 05-05-12, 02:58 PM

its up,,, sweet lemon

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04-30-12, 07:00 PM	#1
Bugman58 Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: N.Phoenix,,az Posts: 282	A Ton of 58 reissue"s Im not sure were I expect this thread to go and its not spam. But Daves guitars has 62 or so R8"s in stock,,, CRAZY,,,, I am a big fan of R8s because I like bigger necks. So I have bought a few from this shop because they always have a huge selection in stock. But dam if they dont have me gassing for a new one. Even the plaintop vos have some figure to them. There may not be as many R9"S out there this year but there is no shortage of R8S from what I can see.

04-30-12, 07:55 PM	#2
Guitar Whiskey All Access/Backstage Pass Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 2,277	Re: A Ton of 58 reissue"s Some of those plain tops have as much flame as an original burst. That's a lot of 2012 R8's to move.

04-30-12, 09:27 PM	#3
Bugman58 Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: N.Phoenix,,az Posts: 282	Re: A Ton of 58 reissue"s there all not 2012. I would say about 30 are 2012 plus they have a bunch of the daves ann, models. But I was shocked and yes that is a lot of guitars to move these days.

04-30-12, 11:23 PM	#4
burstman59 Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: IN. Posts: 1,707	Re: A Ton of 58 reissue"s Yeah I noticed this as well. I have said on here a few times if Gibson would do some R8s with lightly figured tops and different finishes they would sell. And its not just here in the States. I've noticed alot of overseas dealers getting some nice R8s. Not to take away form R9s but alot of the 2011 and 2012 R8s have nice authentic looking real burst type flame. Where as the really nice flame is going on the CC series and the higher end R9s. I noticed most 2012s Custom shop guitars are coming in the new reissue style brown cases but built better than the earlier brown cases. You can get them in about any variation of color and fade as well. I love the Western Desert fade. Kinda of a Tea burst but with a tad more red in it.

05-01-12, 04:56 AM	#5
DANELECTRO Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 5,328	Re: A Ton of 58 reissue"s There are quite a few under 8.5 lbs and some great looking tops. I had to quit looking before I tossed one into the cart.

05-01-12, 08:07 AM	#6
tdarian All Access/Backstage Pass Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Yorba Linda, CA Posts: 1,267	Re: A Ton of 58 reissue"s Uh-Oh. __________________ If I Told You All That Went Down It Would Burn Off Both Of Your Ears

05-01-12, 09:24 AM	#7
herb Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Washington State Posts: 450	Re: A Ton of 58 reissue"s Those figured top R8's are about $850 more than the Plaintop R8s.

05-01-12, 12:00 PM	#8
axeman565758 Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: northern NJ Posts: 761	Re: A Ton of 58 reissue"s Joe, I saw his stock a few weeks back (online) There were some beauties and the prices were very competative......problem was (for me) necks were all in the ..895"-.915" range and very slight shoulders.....that took me out of the running __________________ Guitars: 2012 Gibson '57 Goldtop Historic 2011 '60 NOS "NoNeck" Strat Olympic White 2011 National Collegian single cone Aged Ivory 2001 Gibson '56 Goldtop Historic 1990 Guild D-4NT acoustic 1981 Guild D-15 Mahogany, w/ Fishman Rare Earth p'up Amps: 2012 Fender '65 Princeton Reverb RI 1993 Fender '63 Vibroverb RI Brown/Wheat 1991 Fender '63 Vibroverb RI Brown/Wheat

05-01-12, 12:24 PM	#9
MRTONEMAN Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 759	Re: A Ton of 58 reissue"s Some are jaw dropping like this one listed as a plaintop, yet mildly flamed.

05-01-12, 07:14 PM	#12
houndog31 Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 314	Re: A Ton of 58 reissue"s Whatever technique Dave's is using on the photography it's strange. The contrast is pumped, to wash out the white background it appears, but it has an overall effect on the photo. It's impossible to tell what the guitar actually looks like.

05-01-12, 09:02 PM	#15
tdarian All Access/Backstage Pass Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Yorba Linda, CA Posts: 1,267	Re: A Ton of 58 reissue"s I think their web photography has always been an inaccurate respresentation. These photos below are exaggerated in terms of detail and contrast to what this looks like in person, particularly the BRW neck. Not to change the subject matter because those R8s look cool and I'd actually love to go up there and see them. __________________ If I Told You All That Went Down It Would Burn Off Both Of Your Ears

05-02-12, 06:02 PM	#17
houndog31 Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 314	Re: A Ton of 58 reissue"s Here's an example of what I mean. Obviously these are two different guitars and comparing Bursts is not an exact science to begin with, but the imaging characteristics are evident. Both similar looking plain Lemon tops. I bet these two guitars look very close side by side in real life. The top photo is the older style from Dave's website. The light is a bit warm but relatively accurate for most natural household situations. The newer example below uses a much more harsh angled light (evident in the tailpiece & the shadow on the bottom) and the contrast is pumped up. This does show grain patterns much better but it's not what that guitar would look like in most natural light situations. You can also see that the colour of the inlays and plastic are affected by the shadow and highlight boost. Personally I would feel very comfortable buying the top guitar over the phone. The bottom one I'd want new pics or an in-person viewing.

05-02-12, 06:26 PM	#18
goldtop0 Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: At the end of the Long White Cloud Posts: 4,432	Re: A Ton of 58 reissue"s Good lord they're great looking LPs for sure. Me I'd be in for a lighter one 8-8.5lbs if I had the $$ right now.

05-03-12, 08:52 PM	#26
MRTONEMAN Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 759	Re: A Ton of 58 reissue"s Here it is now with no flash.

05-03-12, 11:53 PM	#28
burstman59 Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: IN. Posts: 1,707	Re: A Ton of 58 reissue"s Wow MRTONEMAN that thing is beautiful. Wished I had saw it 1st. I did wind up with a nice 2011 R8 Stinger that is nice too. I love the color. The tone and it plays better than any new out of the box guitar Ive played, the only problem is its a tad heavy. Probably 9.5 lbs. Sounds killer too.

05-04-12, 03:33 PM	#30
Bugman58 Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: N.Phoenix,,az Posts: 282	Re: A Ton of 58 reissue"s I picked up this killer R8 from daves the other day. I knew I could not resist. they told me they have a lot more coming also,,, crazy,, i asked how will they sell them all, Dave said there guitars they dont go bad. I will post more pics when I get it tomorrow. a tease for now

05-05-12, 02:46 AM	#32
c_wester Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,664	Re: A Ton of 58 reissue"s EDIT

05-05-12, 09:27 AM	#34
Bugman58 Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: N.Phoenix,,az Posts: 282	Re: A Ton of 58 reissue"s Waiting for the DAM truck to come. Got address wrong at first but its still coming, soon I hope

05-05-12, 02:21 PM	#37
Bugman58 Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: N.Phoenix,,az Posts: 282	Re: A Ton of 58 reissue"s Your right,, well it came about two hrs ago. I have been playing it and taking pics and will post a thread soon.

05-05-12, 02:58 PM	#40
Bugman58 Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: N.Phoenix,,az Posts: 282	Re: A Ton of 58 reissue"s its up,,, sweet lemon