Moderne prices — WTF? - Page 2

Vortexx · 02-19-12, 10:54 PM

The headless Moderne on ebay is somewhat suspicious to me. How could a ceiling fan cut the headstock from the guitar?

vintage58 · 02-20-12, 05:08 AM

I think the ceiling fan thing was an attempt at humor. But that place's prices are a bit nuts. Another one of their listings, for example, is for a partsless '59 ES-345 (at least they say it's a '59) that has been painted black and has a crudely widened treble-side F-hole, and I think they want like $8,500 for it. Both guitars have been on there for at least a year. I contacted them a while ago about the 345 and they were unwilling to go lower on ze price. Good luck, is all I can say....
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vintage58 · 05-16-12, 06:40 AM

There must be a higher demand for 1980s Modernes in Rochester. House of Guitars looks to have listed a second one on Gbase.com recently, this one is A 042. For years, they had A 046 listed, and unril recently it apparently had been continuously on their sales floor since the early 1980s (i.e., it never sold, so I guess it was technically an as-new guitar). Anyway, they were asking $9,000 for A 046.

So, when I saw the new listing for A 042 on Gbase.com — and its "call for price" instruction — I did just that. The store answers and I say I'm calling to get a price on a guitar. Guy says, which one. I say the 1980s Moderne. He says, that one is $9,000. So, I explain that the text description on Gbase.com still says that the listed guitar is A 046, but the pictures are of a different Moderne, and I ask if they actually have two for sale. He says hold on, let me check. So he gets back on the phone and says A 046 sold, and that A 042 is the one that is in stock. So, I say how much is that one. He says $9K.

Am I missing something here? Sellers of mint-condition examples on eBay over the last two or three years have been having great difficulty getting more than $4K or, at the most, $4,500 for these guitars. The Music Zoo had a practically mint "A"-series example about six months ago — one that was actually one serial number lower than the current HOG example — and they sold it for $4,199 (i.e., hundreds less than half of HOG's price).

I'm just not understanding the $9K pricing logic. I like the guitar, but I'm a bit put off by the price.
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vintage58 All Access/Backstage Pass Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Detached and subdivided in the mass-production zone. Posts: 3,611	I think the ceiling fan thing was an attempt at humor. But that place's prices are a bit nuts. Another one of their listings, for example, is for a partsless '59 ES-345 (at least they say it's a '59) that has been painted black and has a crudely widened treble-side F-hole, and I think they want like $8,500 for it. Both guitars have been on there for at least a year. I contacted them a while ago about the 345 and they were unwilling to go lower on ze price. Good luck, is all I can say.... . . . . . __________________ "And it seems to me perfectly in the cards that there will be, within the next generation or so, a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude, and producing . . . a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies, so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away from them but will rather enjoy it, because they will be distracted from any desire to rebel by propa- ganda or brainwashing, or brainwashing enhanced by pharmacological methods." Aldous Huxley, 1961

05-16-12, 06:40 AM	#43
vintage58 All Access/Backstage Pass Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Detached and subdivided in the mass-production zone. Posts: 3,611	There must be a higher demand for 1980s Modernes in Rochester. House of Guitars looks to have listed a second one on Gbase.com recently, this one is A 042. For years, they had A 046 listed, and unril recently it apparently had been continuously on their sales floor since the early 1980s (i.e., it never sold, so I guess it was technically an as-new guitar). Anyway, they were asking $9,000 for A 046. So, when I saw the new listing for A 042 on Gbase.com — and its "call for price" instruction — I did just that. The store answers and I say I'm calling to get a price on a guitar. Guy says, which one. I say the 1980s Moderne. He says, that one is $9,000. So, I explain that the text description on Gbase.com still says that the listed guitar is A 046, but the pictures are of a different Moderne, and I ask if they actually have two for sale. He says hold on, let me check. So he gets back on the phone and says A 046 sold, and that A 042 is the one that is in stock. So, I say how much is that one. He says $9K. Am I missing something here? Sellers of mint-condition examples on eBay over the last two or three years have been having great difficulty getting more than $4K or, at the most, $4,500 for these guitars. The Music Zoo had a practically mint "A"-series example about six months ago — one that was actually one serial number lower than the current HOG example — and they sold it for $4,199 (i.e., hundreds less than half of HOG's price). I'm just not understanding the $9K pricing logic. I like the guitar, but I'm a bit put off by the price. / __________________ "And it seems to me perfectly in the cards that there will be, within the next generation or so, a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude, and producing . . . a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies, so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away from them but will rather enjoy it, because they will be distracted from any desire to rebel by propa- ganda or brainwashing, or brainwashing enhanced by pharmacological methods." Aldous Huxley, 1961