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Old 09-17-09, 06:11 AM   #1
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Blacktop Historics

Hi, I've been looking for a Historic with black top for quite some time now, but it's hard to find. Anyone know how many Gibson has made? I'm thinking about the humbucking version, so R7 I guess?

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Old 09-17-09, 06:58 AM   #2
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There's a Black Top R8 for sale at Mark's Guitar Loft.

He's a very reputable dealer.
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Old 09-17-09, 07:28 AM   #3
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There are the black beauty

-R4 Custom with P90 bridge and staple neck pickup
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-68 Custom reissue (similar to the R7 black beauty but with a maple cap and nickel hardware instead of gold).


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Old 09-17-09, 07:57 AM   #4
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You guys in the know can correct me, but I recall Sam Ash having a special run of R8 BT's back in 2000 or 2001. I have seen a few and I believe 1 or 2 of our LPF members own one. Other than the top color, they were a basic R7/R8 weight and neck profile from that time period. Very cool looking guitars, IMO
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Old 09-17-09, 08:20 AM   #5
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Re: Blacktop Historics

I believe there is a blacktop R4 for sale on the gearpage or I saw it on Ebay yesterday

R6 Gibson Custom color 56 Les Paul RARE & NEW http://www.thegearpage.net/board/sho...d.php?t=602629
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Old 09-17-09, 08:27 AM   #6
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Here it is. It's actually an R6. Very cool looking guitar.

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Old 09-17-09, 08:30 AM   #7
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I had some trouble copy/pasting the link :-)
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Old 09-17-09, 08:40 AM   #8
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Great looking guitar, but at 9.8lbs yikes, might as well get a norlin at that weight. Just bustin. I love the way P90 LP's looks with Black.
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Old 09-17-09, 10:25 AM   #9
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Makes me think of the Black Cherry HM thread posted here awhile back. That's one of my favorites. He went black and won't be going back.

Edit - here's a link: http://www.lespaulforum.com/forum/sh...t=black+cherry
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Old 09-17-09, 05:36 PM   #10
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Isn't an Oxblood a notch cooler?
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Old 09-17-09, 07:18 PM   #11
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There's a Black Top R8 for sale at Mark's Guitar Loft.

He's a very reputable dealer.

That's a killer looking historic. I'd love to hear how it sounds.


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Old 09-18-09, 02:10 AM   #12
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You guys in the know can correct me, but I recall Sam Ash having a special run of R8 BT's back in 2000 or 2001. I have seen a few and I believe 1 or 2 of our LPF members own one. Other than the top color, they were a basic R7/R8 weight and neck profile from that time period. Very cool looking guitars, IMO
Yep, I had one for a while. Also had an R7 in black. Be patient, they're out there.
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Old 09-18-09, 08:32 AM   #13
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Hi, I've been looking for a Historic with black top for quite some time now, but it's hard to find. Anyone know how many Gibson has made? I'm thinking about the humbucking version, so R7 I guess?

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Mine is all black it is really an outstanding guitar. Its a 1997 --- R 8

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BTW the one at Marks is an amazingly good price there were only 75 made in all black that year.

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Old 09-18-09, 10:02 AM   #14
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Look at the top carve on that black one on the Gear Page.

I wonder if the back and sides are black?
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Old 09-18-09, 04:20 PM   #15
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There used to be a 57 Reissue in black (not a Custom). Don't they make those anymore?

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Mine is all black it is really an outstanding guitar. Its a 1997 --- R 8

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BTW the one at Marks is an amazingly good price there were only 75 made in all black that year.

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Old 02-18-11, 09:59 PM   #18
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I just got one off Craigslist. Its a 2000, one of 75 made for Sam Ash as stated on the COA, but I read they only got 2 orders of 30 each...so there's only 60 out there like this...Weighs just 8 lbs 11 oz. Has '57 Classics, no bumblebee caps, but large green ceramic ones a little smaller than a dime.
1 pc back, stamped R8 in the control cavity.
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There's a Black Top R8 for sale at Mark's Guitar Loft.

He's a very reputable dealer.
+1 I'd get on that quick if you want it, mark is great, and there's nothing like a ebony R
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Old 02-19-11, 07:12 AM   #20
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Here is my 09 R0 Sam Ash exclusive that I modded to look like the rare 1960 in ebony. It is all black, not just top. Best Les Paul ever for me. Mark has an ebony R0 for sale, but I think it is on hold now. Beautiful guitar.


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Old 02-19-11, 07:46 AM   #21
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[quote=paul144;2239730]I just got one off Craigslist. Its a 2000, one of 75 made for Sam Ash as stated on the COA, but I read they only got 2 orders of 30 each...so there's only 60 out there like this...Weighs just 8 lbs 11 oz. Has '57 Classics, no bumblebee caps, but large green ceramic ones a little smaller than a dime.
1 pc back, stamped R8 in the control cavity.
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Old 02-19-11, 08:12 AM   #22
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I bought a gloss ebony R0 off the Music Zoo a month or so ago. It's a great guitar. The vibe and playability is off the charts. Only 8 lbs 3 oz. For some reason black Gibson Historics have always been pretty heavy. So I jumped on it.
Looks like they just got another one in, VOS.
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Old 02-19-11, 08:39 AM   #23
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There are 2 members here with 2000 R8 blacktops that we have been trying to find info on! Looks like you have the golden ticket! What is the serial number? My friend has 0051 and there is a member with 0016. Very cool info! Thanks!
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lets just say my serial # falls right in between those two..
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Old 02-19-11, 02:35 PM   #25
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57 RI.Black as the night.


and with my 71 Gold Top.
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Old 02-19-11, 08:56 PM   #26
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Dave's Guitars had a run of blacktop and cherry top R7's done in 2004. I picked one up from a forum brother about 5 years ago. Has DW timbuckers in it now. Nice guitar.
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Re: Blacktop Historics

Been looking for a R7/R8 black top too for about 3 months (worldwide). Nothing has come up so far. My next idea was to buy a gold top and do a refin on the top.

Seems to be a lot of confusion here about these particular guitars. As far as I am aware, it was only Sam Ash that ordered the black top with the plain mahogany back and neck...2000/01. Does anyone know different? I'm not talking anything that is ALL black. Only a black top.
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Love that look with the black top/mahogany back.
Reminds me of the character painting on the sleeve of the original Aerosmith "Rocks" LP.
I think it was Brad's in the painting.
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"Seems to be a lot of confusion here about these particular guitars. As far as I am aware, it was only Sam Ash that ordered the black top with the plain mahogany back and neck...2000/01. Does anyone know different? I'm not talking anything that is ALL black. Only a black top."


As mentioned in my Post above, Dave's did a run of Blacktop R7's in 2004.

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for anyone that is interested...there is a black top R8 and a blacktop R0 on dabay right now...
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for anyone that is interested...there is a black top R8 and a blacktop R0 on dabay right now...
Any links? I'm not seeing them. (and I watch for them like a hawk)
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Old 02-22-11, 11:42 AM   #33
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Very Nice!!!!!!!!!

It's very cool to be able to narrow down all these blacktops and the runs they had at Gibson during the different years. Seems these 2000 R8's may be the only R8's made in that year.

My friends R8 didn't have the COA and the checklist has the wrong serial number. His guitar is 8 0051 and his checklist says 8 0058.

I guess you either love these things or ya don't! I liked his R8 so much I had to have one, and luckily found an R6 blacktop that I play almost every day.

Enjoy that one!
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thanks! Mine came with a checklist for an R9!
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"Seems to be a lot of confusion here about these particular guitars. As far as I am aware, it was only Sam Ash that ordered the black top with the plain mahogany back and neck...2000/01. Does anyone know different? I'm not talking anything that is ALL black. Only a black top."


As mentioned in my Post above, Dave's did a run of Blacktop R7's in 2004.

http://www.lespaulforum.com/forum/sh...t=R7+Blacktops
Yeah cheers. I went back and saw your post the next day. We are 16+ hours ahead here in Oz and most of the time I'm tyoping at 1am....see, there you go..."tyoping". What the hell is that!

Anyway, I'm still thinking buy R7.....paint top black. Could probably do it with a spray can too.
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Hey no big issue Oldflame. Hope you find one. They look awesome.
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They are out there, just not too many of them around. Here is an '07 R7 I picked up last month.
Despite the thicker neck (not much more than either of my R8s) and the factory installed bigsby she only weighs in at 9lbs 5oz. She is all black, with dark brown covers around back.


Why does this forum have such a problem with posting photos? I jumped through every hoop I had to and all I get is this "?"! C'mon, what the problem with posting attachements? All I want to do is share with everyone.

If anyone REALLY wants to see it you have to go here:
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Here ya' go. Nice!


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The Music Zoo just sent me an email stating that they just got in some Ebony/Black R0's........
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Of course the black top mahogany sides/back was a Gretsch signature. Duo Jet's look very cool in that config. I had a '98 LP Standard done as a black top many years ago as I wanted it a Gretsch look - swapped it for a Gretsch in the end.

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