GazzaBloom
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I'm saddened that Gibson have seen fit to discontinue the Jr & Special models in the RI/VOS/Historic line.
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They discontinued them. It costs them nearly as much to make a Junior or Special as it does to make an R9 and they can get a whole lot more money selling an R9. It's a business at the end of the day with one objective.
They discontinued them. It costs them nearly as much to make a Junior or Special as it does to make an R9 and they can get a whole lot more money selling an R9. It's a business at the end of the day with one objective.
A Les Paul Junior or Special costing as much to make as an R9? Really? I find that hard to believe....
I concur wholeheartedly. There is no way they cost the same in labor, and certainly cost more in parts as their are tons more to order, install, train people to install etc. Sorting and sourcing flamed maple cost $$$ in labor and material over a slab of mahogany in a Jr/Spc.
On the contrary, other than lower demand than R6-9, I bet per unit Jrs are as profitable or maybe much more so than a carved top LP (percentage profit I mean). $2500+ for a slab of mahogany with 1/3 the number of parts to install?
Does the original poster KNOW they have been cancelled? Seems like everyone is taking the ball and running with it. Could just be an R4 situation, where they are just put on the back burner and done in batches.
I concur wholeheartedly. There is no way they cost the same in labor, and certainly cost more in parts as their are tons more to order, install, train people to install etc. Sorting and sourcing flamed maple cost $$$ in labor and material over a slab of mahogany in a Jr/Spc.
On the contrary, other than lower demand than R6-9, I bet per unit Jrs are as profitable or maybe much more so than a carved top LP (percentage profit I mean). $2500+ for a slab of mahogany with 1/3 the number of parts to install?
Does the original poster KNOW they have been cancelled? Seems like everyone is taking the ball and running with it. Could just be an R4 situation, where they are just put on the back burner and done in batches.
Doesn't matter.
Hopefully Gibson will continue the USA Jr.
Mine has a multi piece body and stock p90.
It rocks harder than penitentiary steel.
True story.
A major Gibson dealer told me it costs Gibson not a lot more to make a Historic R9 than it does a junior meaning the profit margin on an R9 is much bigger than on a junior. They buy parts in bulk and the costings are closer at build cost but wider apart at selling price. Bottom line is they make a LOT more profit on an R9 than a Junior.
I read it on the itrawebz.
It's GOTTA be true.
I'm saddened that Gibson have seen fit to discontinue the Jr & Special models in the RI/VOS/Historic line.
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No, of course I don't know for sure, I don't work for Gibson, but these models are not listed in the lineup on the website anymore.