Joe Perry No.1

MrBeano · 03-04-03, 06:47 PM

Yeah - I owned one of those Joe Perry Les Pauls back in the 1980s. They are really great guitars.
This particular one has a PAF in the bridge position that will level most 335s.
Great warm tone. Killer guitar. I am glad to see Joe got her back.

http://64.49.221.207/pix/zoso/JP59.jpg

I heard Joe is touring with this Les Paul again.
Way Cool JP.

MrBeano · 03-04-03, 06:50 PM

This was in regards to "burst59" Joe Perry Les Paul #19

1958teaburst · 03-04-03, 06:56 PM

that guitar in the pic is a special model??????

MrBeano · 03-04-03, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1958teaburst
that guitar in the pic is a special model??????

Yeah it is the Boneyard "Boomerang" model eventually it comes back to ya.
Much Mojo!

1958teaburst · 03-04-03, 07:07 PM

isnt the guitar in the pic an original burst? sure looks that way to me.

MrBeano · 03-04-03, 07:15 PM

Yes - It is the real thing. It was Joes guitar in the early days of Aerosmith. The guitar went through a couple hands. Slash used it in the "November Rain" video. Now Joe got her back. True Love story.

1958teaburst · 03-04-03, 07:19 PM

thats the darkburst in botb

MrBeano · 03-04-03, 07:26 PM

Yes - that is the one. It actually has a little red under the pickguard .
It was a tri tone (dark coffee to red to amber ...but the red has obviously faded away.

1958teaburst · 03-04-03, 07:28 PM

looks black in the burst book..

lpnv59 · 03-05-03, 02:24 PM

There is no red in it. It has faded very little from a tobacco burst to a faded tobacco burst. I had that guitar completely apart countless times. The pu's are spliced a few inches in, the brass nut replaced and original parts put back on by myself. Under the switchring and under the guard is a ever so slightly darker shade of brown. The only red in it is the red in the brown. 9 0663 was not a triburst.:dude

MrBeano · 03-05-03, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lpnv59
There is no red in it. It has faded very little from a tobacco burst to a faded tobacco burst. I had that guitar completely apart countless times. The pu's are spliced a few inches in, the brass nut replaced and original parts put back on by myself. Under the switchring and under the guard is a ever so slightly darker shade of brown. The only red in it is the red in the brown. 9 0663 was not a triburst.:dude

ASK JOE.

MrBeano · 03-05-03, 06:59 PM

Like I said ...I owned the guitar. Slash had it after me. The guitar has been owned by two other "guitar heroes" besides Slash and Joe. When I owned the guitar there was a wisp of red tea under the guard. A very cool color. The rest was completely faded from the top. The guitar had extensive work on the neck. The board had already been flattened and refretted. The original nut was in the case...I still have it. I never saw a brass nut on the guitar. Did Slash do that? When I met up with Slash later...he told me he had somebody take the guitar totally apart and put back together. Was that you? I cant remember if he said anything about changing the pickups. At the time I owned the guitar the color was there under the guard.
When did you work on the guitar? and was it with Joe? or Slash?

MrBeano · 03-05-03, 07:10 PM

Anybody can get the serial number of the guitar out of the BOTB book.

lpnv59 · 03-05-03, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrBeano
Like I said ...I owned the guitar. Slash had it after me. The guitar has been owned by two other "guitar heroes" besides Slash and Joe. When I owned the guitar there was a wisp of red tea under the guard. A very cool color. The rest was completely faded from the top. The guitar had extensive work on the neck. The board had already been flattened and refretted. The original nut was in the case...I still have it. I never saw a brass nut on the guitar. Did Slash do that? When I met up with Slash later...he told me he had somebody take the guitar totally apart and put back together. Was that you? I cant remember if he said anything about changing the pickups. At the time I owned the guitar the color was there under the guard.
When did you work on the guitar? and was it with Joe? or Slash?

I owned it for 6 years myself. Post Joe, pre Eric Johnson, pre-Mrbeano, pre-Slash and pre-Joe again. The guy who owned it before Joe is not known, well George Gruhn sold it to Joe in the first place. Maybe George know who had it originally.

When I got it it had a brass nut, gold hardware w/gotoh tuners and barrel knobs. The pickups that were in it were spliced in with about an inch an half of lead. I don't remember if I replaced those PAF's with another unspliced set. But I put all the original parts back on. They maybe not all correct to the year. The tuners could be the wrong old Klusons. I knew litlle about date codes and patent numbers, not that I know much now but I do know more than I did, thanks to this forum. The guy that refretted it was Neil Thompson who was with Joe and Nitebob at Gruhns when Joe bought it. Nitebob says Neil wasn't with them, but Neil was on the crew with Nitebob at the time. Nitebob is a forum member, he may pipe in and confirm some details about the purchase. I bought the guitar off forum bro NMCINC in and around '80-'81. Slash or Eric probably did another refret, maybe both did. It had the original worn frets when I got it and Neil did not flatten the fingerboard when he did the work.

During the 2 years I tried selling 9 0663, it was put out by a dealer who I had consigned it to, that there was no such color on original bursts and that it was a refin. This is why I took great care in making sure of the colors under the guard and ring, as it killed some interest in the guitar. Even though there were other pretty famous darkbursts like Duane's and Martin Barre's, it didn't seem to matter much. He did this after I took the guitar out of his shop to take it to a NY dealer in Poughkipsee to put on consignment. It went from there to Cambridge Music and finally to Dallas a few times.

I guess we have a different idea on what a triburst is or isn't, BTW how come you sold it? I really didn't like it when I compared it to my other '59. It was on the heavier side, 9ish pounds and at the time I hated the tobacco color. It did sound real nice though, just not better than my other one!

:dude

markguitar · 03-05-03, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrBeano
Anybody can get the serial number of the guitar out of the BOTB book.

Aren't we cocky!!!

I guess nobody else around here could have possibly owned a burst!:dead: :dead:

MrBeano · 03-05-03, 08:52 PM

Mark do you want me to buy any more guitars from you?

Just kidding

markguitar · 03-05-03, 09:47 PM

Just sticking up for a friend! Billy has owned a number of real guitars and is a very knowledgeable person. Seemed like you were doubting what he had to say when I know for a fact that he owned the guitar long before you. Email me if you want to talk further.

MrBeano · 03-05-03, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lpnv59
I guess we have a different idea on what a triburst is or isn't.
:dude

I guess that is it. Yosuhiko has another view (on page 59), "What looks like a tobacco burst is actually a very dark burgundy. Very narrow burst gradation means this top has experienced considerable fading. Probably much redder when it was new. Aged and ambered clear top coat contributes to tobacco look."

Three sides to every story?

If I offended you I apologize ...it looks like I offended Mark.. I will call him.

lpnv59 · 03-06-03, 05:12 AM

Mrbeano, no offense taken.

The gradation of the burst although on the narrower side, was not any less than a number of bursts I've seen. And I never saw any strong evidence of a triburst under the guard. It didn't look very faded under the guard or switch ring. The brown was slightly redder, SLIGHTY! I didn't see any spot under the guard where there was a third color, like on a triburst.
I'm not so stubborn that I can't learn from others, but I simply don't agree with the BOTB theory. My only regret about selling that guitar is that Joe would of gotten it back quicker. He came and sat in with a band I was in one night when I had it. I asked him if he wanted to play it and he said no as he picked up my spare Junior. The burst was for sale at the time cause I needed some money and he said well that what they're there for. ;)

markguitar · 03-06-03, 06:07 AM

Quote:it looks like I offended Mark.. I will call him.

No need to call, I'm not offended. I guess all of us around here just have to be reminded sometimes, that you never no who you might be talking about!

MrBeano · 03-06-03, 08:18 AM

In all honesty folks I think I used the term "TriTone" a little too liberally here.
It would be interesting to see that guitar as new in 1959.
Color wise it has always been a controversial piece. We proved that.

And I do love the Les Paul Forum. I always learn so much in here - not just about guitars...
but about life and that is more important anyway.

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03-04-03, 06:56 PM	#3
1958teaburst Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Hot 'lanta Posts: 868	that guitar in the pic is a special model?????? __________________ "If you put everything I've done in my life into one day , it looks decent " George Castanza ~Duane~

03-04-03, 07:07 PM	#5
1958teaburst Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Hot 'lanta Posts: 868	isnt the guitar in the pic an original burst? sure looks that way to me. __________________ "If you put everything I've done in my life into one day , it looks decent " George Castanza ~Duane~

03-04-03, 07:19 PM	#7
1958teaburst Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Hot 'lanta Posts: 868	thats the darkburst in botb __________________ "If you put everything I've done in my life into one day , it looks decent " George Castanza ~Duane~

03-04-03, 07:28 PM	#9
1958teaburst Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Hot 'lanta Posts: 868	looks black in the burst book.. __________________ "If you put everything I've done in my life into one day , it looks decent " George Castanza ~Duane~

03-04-03, 06:47 PM	#1
MrBeano Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 296	Joe Perry No.1 Yeah - I owned one of those Joe Perry Les Pauls back in the 1980s. They are really great guitars. This particular one has a PAF in the bridge position that will level most 335s. Great warm tone. Killer guitar. I am glad to see Joe got her back. http://64.49.221.207/pix/zoso/JP59.jpg I heard Joe is touring with this Les Paul again. Way Cool JP.

03-04-03, 06:50 PM	#2
MrBeano Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 296	This was in regards to "burst59" Joe Perry Les Paul #19

03-04-03, 07:15 PM	#6
MrBeano Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 296	Yes - It is the real thing. It was Joes guitar in the early days of Aerosmith. The guitar went through a couple hands. Slash used it in the "November Rain" video. Now Joe got her back. True Love story.

03-04-03, 07:26 PM	#8
MrBeano Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 296	Yes - that is the one. It actually has a little red under the pickguard . It was a tri tone (dark coffee to red to amber ...but the red has obviously faded away.

03-05-03, 02:24 PM	#10
lpnv59 All Access/Backstage Pass Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: NH/MA Bordertown USA Posts: 9,744	There is no red in it. It has faded very little from a tobacco burst to a faded tobacco burst. I had that guitar completely apart countless times. The pu's are spliced a few inches in, the brass nut replaced and original parts put back on by myself. Under the switchring and under the guard is a ever so slightly darker shade of brown. The only red in it is the red in the brown. 9 0663 was not a triburst.:dude __________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that it's difficult to determine whether or not they are genuine". `Abraham Lincoln

03-05-03, 06:59 PM	#12
MrBeano Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 296	Like I said ...I owned the guitar. Slash had it after me. The guitar has been owned by two other "guitar heroes" besides Slash and Joe. When I owned the guitar there was a wisp of red tea under the guard. A very cool color. The rest was completely faded from the top. The guitar had extensive work on the neck. The board had already been flattened and refretted. The original nut was in the case...I still have it. I never saw a brass nut on the guitar. Did Slash do that? When I met up with Slash later...he told me he had somebody take the guitar totally apart and put back together. Was that you? I cant remember if he said anything about changing the pickups. At the time I owned the guitar the color was there under the guard. When did you work on the guitar? and was it with Joe? or Slash?

03-05-03, 07:10 PM	#13
MrBeano Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 296	Anybody can get the serial number of the guitar out of the BOTB book.

03-05-03, 08:52 PM	#16
MrBeano Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 296	Mark do you want me to buy any more guitars from you? Just kidding

03-05-03, 09:47 PM	#17
markguitar Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 2,104	Just sticking up for a friend! Billy has owned a number of real guitars and is a very knowledgeable person. Seemed like you were doubting what he had to say when I know for a fact that he owned the guitar long before you. Email me if you want to talk further.

03-06-03, 05:12 AM	#19
lpnv59 All Access/Backstage Pass Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: NH/MA Bordertown USA Posts: 9,744	Mrbeano, no offense taken. The gradation of the burst although on the narrower side, was not any less than a number of bursts I've seen. And I never saw any strong evidence of a triburst under the guard. It didn't look very faded under the guard or switch ring. The brown was slightly redder, SLIGHTY! I didn't see any spot under the guard where there was a third color, like on a triburst. I'm not so stubborn that I can't learn from others, but I simply don't agree with the BOTB theory. My only regret about selling that guitar is that Joe would of gotten it back quicker. He came and sat in with a band I was in one night when I had it. I asked him if he wanted to play it and he said no as he picked up my spare Junior. The burst was for sale at the time cause I needed some money and he said well that what they're there for. ;) __________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that it's difficult to determine whether or not they are genuine". `Abraham Lincoln

03-06-03, 06:07 AM	#20
markguitar Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 2,104	Quote:it looks like I offended Mark.. I will call him. No need to call, I'm not offended. I guess all of us around here just have to be reminded sometimes, that you never no who you might be talking about!

03-06-03, 08:18 AM	#21
MrBeano Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 296	In all honesty folks I think I used the term "TriTone" a little too liberally here. It would be interesting to see that guitar as new in 1959. Color wise it has always been a controversial piece. We proved that. And I do love the Les Paul Forum. I always learn so much in here - not just about guitars... but about life and that is more important anyway.