Historic LP Special repro that was never made?

Bhodie · 03-18-11, 11:52 AM

Well.. it turns out that my LP Special singlecut in TV Yellow is a historic of well... nothing in history! According to Gibson, there was never a singlecut with a 59 neck profile made in 1960.. and the less than 2 dozen or so they made were "mistakes" and you can no longer get them..

I guess all I have to say is too bad, if they didn't make them.. they should have! Cause this is one awesome guitar..

markguitar · 03-18-11, 12:36 PM

Yeah, I've never understood why Gibson doesn't just give the TV Specials a '56 or '57 serial number. The '60 designation baffles me.

cryptozoo · 03-18-11, 02:04 PM

They are great guitars!

DanD · 03-18-11, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by markguitar

Yeah, I've never understood why Gibson doesn't just give the TV Specials a '56 or '57 serial number. The '60 designation baffles me.

+1

And why not a fuller 50s neck to match?

All the USA SC Specials use the 60s neck too. I guess Gibson knows their customers well enough to know that SC LP Special players only like 60s necks.

D'Mule · 03-18-11, 02:34 PM

Yah, that looks really nice.

reswot · 03-18-11, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DanD

+1

And why not a fuller 50s neck to match?

All the USA SC Specials use the 60s neck too. I guess Gibson knows their customers well enough to know that SC LP Special players only like 60s necks.

I've had two of these and the freakin' necks are HUGE on them. Much bigger than the necks on my R7, R8, or R9, for that matter.

Don't get these confused with the production Specials from the 90s...

markguitar · 03-18-11, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DanD

+1

And why not a fuller 50s neck to match?

All the USA SC Specials use the 60s neck too. I guess Gibson knows their customers well enough to know that SC LP Special players only like 60s necks.

Dan, we're talking Historic reissues here and even though they have a '60 serial number the necks on these are HUGE!!! NO '60 slim taper neck on these

bigtomrodney · 03-18-11, 03:35 PM

The 1960 DC Special is another odd one, not really a reissue. By 1960 they didn't have a Les Paul silkscreen on the headstock and the colour while not perfect anyway is more like a 1958 than a 1960. Not sure about that thin neck either!

Bhodie · 03-18-11, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by markguitar

Dan, we're talking Historic reissues here and even though they have a '60 serial number the necks on these are HUGE!!! NO '60 slim taper neck on these

Correct.. but not "Historic" and no longer available in the Singlecut with big 50's neck.. evidently.. the word is that Doublecuts from the late 50's had the "big neck" and singlecuts from the early 60's had the slimmer neck.. so no more historic "combo's" with the fifties neck and the Singlecut body.. glad I got mine.. and if you have one, you are part of a pretty select group!

cryptozoo · 03-18-11, 07:01 PM

Wait, what? 60s singlecuts? The Historic 1960 Singlecuts have giant necks, the doublecuts are on the smaller side.

reswot · 03-18-11, 07:30 PM

I'm not sure what he's talking about...

markguitar · 03-18-11, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Bhodie

Correct.. but not "Historic" and no longer available in the Singlecut with big 50's neck.. evidently.. the word is that Doublecuts from the late 50's had the "big neck" and singlecuts from the early 60's had the slimmer neck.. so no more historic "combo's" with the fifties neck and the Singlecut body.. glad I got mine.. and if you have one, you are part of a pretty select group!

What are you talking about???? They ARE Historic Collection 1960 LP Special reissues and they ARE still on the current price sheet. There were NO single cut Juniors or specials of any kind in the '60's.

Rare Form · 03-18-11, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by markguitar

Dan, we're talking Historic reissues here and even though they have a '60 serial number the necks on these are HUGE!!! NO '60 slim taper neck on these

And that should be the final word. Mark knows his stuff!

Bhodie · 03-18-11, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rare Form

And that should be the final word. Mark knows his stuff!

And you guys are certainly the experts.. I am only reporting what the Gibson factory told my dealer when they tried to order one... that the LP Special SC with 60's serial number and the 59 neck was not "historic" and that they were not going to be making them any more.. what can I say?.. Probably should not have brought it up..

Back to my deep lurk status.. my bad.

DanD · 03-19-11, 05:57 AM

My bad, I was thinking they were the same Gibson '60s necks as on my DC R0 as well as the USA models.

As already said, why call it a '60 then?

The whole reason I bought my DC RO is I figured I'd get the DC if both were using '60s necks.

After reading this I'll now be keeping an eye out for a SC R0.

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03-18-11, 11:52 AM	#1
Bhodie Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 154	Historic LP Special repro that was never made? Well.. it turns out that my LP Special singlecut in TV Yellow is a historic of well... nothing in history! According to Gibson, there was never a singlecut with a 59 neck profile made in 1960.. and the less than 2 dozen or so they made were "mistakes" and you can no longer get them.. I guess all I have to say is too bad, if they didn't make them.. they should have! Cause this is one awesome guitar..

03-18-11, 12:36 PM	#2
markguitar Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 2,104	Re: Historic LP Special repro that was never made? Yeah, I've never understood why Gibson doesn't just give the TV Specials a '56 or '57 serial number. The '60 designation baffles me.

03-18-11, 02:04 PM	#3
cryptozoo Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,471	Re: Historic LP Special repro that was never made? They are great guitars!

03-18-11, 03:35 PM	#8
bigtomrodney Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Dublin, Ireland. Posts: 1,296	Re: Historic LP Special repro that was never made? The 1960 DC Special is another odd one, not really a reissue. By 1960 they didn't have a Les Paul silkscreen on the headstock and the colour while not perfect anyway is more like a 1958 than a 1960. Not sure about that thin neck either!

03-18-11, 07:01 PM	#10
cryptozoo Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,471	Re: Historic LP Special repro that was never made? Wait, what? 60s singlecuts? The Historic 1960 Singlecuts have giant necks, the doublecuts are on the smaller side.

03-18-11, 07:30 PM	#11
reswot All Access/Backstage Pass Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: IN Posts: 2,984	Re: Historic LP Special repro that was never made? I'm not sure what he's talking about...

03-19-11, 05:57 AM	#15
DanD Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,151	Re: Historic LP Special repro that was never made? My bad, I was thinking they were the same Gibson '60s necks as on my DC R0 as well as the USA models. As already said, why call it a '60 then? The whole reason I bought my DC RO is I figured I'd get the DC if both were using '60s necks. After reading this I'll now be keeping an eye out for a SC R0. __________________ "In Heaven all the interesting people are missing."