Has anyone seen a late 60s SG Jr w inlaid HS?

[58plaintopRI]

I was doing some internet research on this '68 SG Jr I just bought and I cannot seem to find another with a pearl inlaid Gibson logo. I do see them on some of the SG specials. The guitar has a headstock repair, is it possible that the previous owner decided to add the inlay when the repair was done? Or is this some kind of rare bird?

Here's a pic:

[58plaintopRI]

Here's a body shot as well:

[J.D.]

That guitar should have the gold colored Gibson decal on the headstock IIRC.

[58plaintopRI]

Yes, thats what I've seen on every other one. The Specials and regular SGs have the inlaid logo.

[j45]

Originally Posted by 58plaintopRI

I was doing some internet research on this '68 SG Jr I just bought and I cannot seem to find another with a pearl inlaid Gibson logo. I do see them on some of the SG specials. The guitar has a headstock repair, is it possible that the previous owner decided to add the inlay when the repair was done? Or is this some kind of rare bird?

Here's a pic:

the logo looks odd but the black finish looks even stranger to me.

[58plaintopRI]

The logo is correct for 68/69. The headstock seems to have been resprayed. I just dont know if the logo is original.

[Axel]

Originally Posted by 58plaintopRI

Here's a body shot as well:

Not to bash your guitar, but what's up with the contouring of the cutaways on the late '60s/early '70s SG's?

[cryptozoo]

That lower horn is bunk looking...

[58plaintopRI]

Cutaways? Who cares? Fat neck, screaming p90, light weight.

[Litcrit]

IMHO: The body is legit, it's a Gibson. The late 60's bodies had the blockier cutaways: that's typical. The earlier 60's SGs had much sharper horns and contoured cutaways, like Fender, Gibson took less time contouring the bodies post-65. It looks like someone re-veneered the headstock w/ one that has the pearl-inlaid logo (you can buy those on ebay). Usually that's done to cover over a full headstock repair, but it's not a big job and I can imagine any number of reasons for someone to do it. Sometimes it's done to make an Asian copy into a Gibson, but that body looks totally fine to me.

[58plaintopRI]

Cryptozoo: Is that an informed opinion? Have you seen many guitars of this vintage? I have no doubt its a legit Gibson-its got the same "micro cracks" on the base of the neck that all these guitars develop, the same gold plate inside the control cavity, the pots date to '68, the pickguard is the same material, plus if you look at any post-65 SG Jr, you will see that the horns are all a little different, but basically the same as this one.

The headstock crack looks like it was done a long time ago. If the inlay is an aftermarket veneer, it looks good on this guitar. I dont care either way, it plays great and sounds absolutely killer, even strung into the vibrato unit. (I have restrung it the "correct" way and it has even more sustain and sounds better than before)

[58plaintopRI]

LitCrit: Have you ever installed one of these veneers? I would like to get one for my ES-333. On my guitar, the inlay really doesn't look like a sticker, it does look like it goes into the wood, but I've never seen how the veneers are constructed.

[cryptozoo]

Originally Posted by 58plaintopRI

Cryptozoo: Is that an informed opinion?

Of course it is, whatdya think this is, an internet forum?!?

I just meant it was an odd looking cut, not that it wasn't authentic. As for the headstock, on the other hand, that matte black does look weird. Maybe someone didn't like the decal look and wanted to upgrade to an inlay during the headstock repair... regardless, if it sounds good and you got into it for a good price then you're set.

[58plaintopRI]

I agree, it is an odd looking cut. When you see the guitar up close, it looks like the entire headstock was sprayed with clear coat after the repair. No peel, just a flatter look.

[BobbyS]

Does your Junior have a volute? It could be one of the very last Jr.s. Once Gibson entered the Norlin era anything is possible!

BTW my 67 SG Special still has nicely defined contours.

[58plaintopRI]

Nope, no volute there. I know '68 was sort of a transitional year for Gibson, which could explain the "rushed" job on the contours, and the inlay, if original.

[68goldtop]

hi!

i was looking at a ´68/69 sg junior recently and it also had an inlayed logo. the inlay was almost all gone on this particular guitar. i asked around and was told that these logos were standard around that time - and that they had a tendency to flake off ;)

cheers - 68.

[Leña_Costoso]

Originally Posted by cryptozoo

That lower horn is bunk looking...

Agreed, and the "logo" looks like a decal or applique, oversprayed perhaps, to me.

[bigsby'd]

That headstock looks oversprayed in that photo to me as well. That said, I had a '64 junior with an inlaid headstock and bound neck. It was jake, and purchased from the original owner. Oddities abound.

[1952LP]

It does look oversprayed but an inlaid logo is correct for '68/'69 Jrs.

[kharrison]

Originally Posted by 1952LP

It does look oversprayed but an inlaid logo is correct for '68/'69 Jrs.

Don't agree, have not seen an inlaid logo on a jr. I'm sure anything is possible with Gibson but I haven't seen it. My 69 jr does not have an inlaid logo.

[27sauce]

Originally Posted by kharrison

Don't agree, have not seen an inlaid logo on a jr. I'm sure anything is possible with Gibson but I haven't seen it. My 69 jr does not have an inlaid logo.

I've never seen one either.

[Wally]

That treble cutaway is something like I have never seen on an SG guitar. I don't know what that means, but it looks strange. OF course, the cutaway on the bass side looks funky, too, doesn't it? That is the worst match between the pickguard and the body contours that I have seen. IN short, it is so ugly that it would have to be a great player or it doesn' have much going for it at all, imho. I would have to look very hard at that one.....if it is a for real Gibson, then it is a sad one as far as looks go.

[27sauce]

Funky looking for sure, but thats what late '60's SG cutaways look like.

[Wally]

WEll, that and the sometimes flat neckset angle must be what puts me off on that era of SG guitars.

[kharrison]

Looks like the lower horn had a repair to it. This one is more early 70's, my 69 still has the deep cutaways.

[58plaintopRI]

Wally, here here is a '67 from Gbase, which was the same lower (and upper) horn. Aside from how ugly these guitars are, do you really think they're fake?

http://www.gbase.com//gear/gibson-sg...1967-cherry-2#

[58plaintopRI]

Here is a pic that I took in the store, I dont think the horn looks bad from this angle:

[58plaintopRI]

None of this matters anyway, when I strip the finish, I'll just take my dremel to the lower horn. I plan on refinishing this bad boy in Candy Apple Blue with ghost flames.

[27sauce]

I don't think yours is fake. Hard to tell in a picture, but, my guess is that it had a headstock break and was reconstructed, using an inlay. Seen crazy stuff than that...

[jsamans]

Originally Posted by 27sauce

I don't think yours is fake. Hard to tell in a picture, but, my guess is that it had a headstock break and was reconstructed, using an inlay. Seen crazy stuff than that...

That's what I think too. If it plays well then, well, play it well

[Dave G]

Originally Posted by 58plaintopRI

None of this matters anyway, when I strip the finish, I'll just take my dremel to the lower horn. I plan on refinishing this bad boy in Candy Apple Blue with ghost flames.

When you strip the finish you might find a Stratocaster under there.
That would explain everything.

[kharrison]

Originally Posted by Dave G

When you strip the finish you might find a Stratocaster under there.
That would explain everything.

[58plaintopRI]

Originally Posted by Dave G

When you strip the finish you might find a Stratocaster under there.
That would explain everything.

Cool, then I could get rid of this nasty sounding P90. What a pile of junk. I think I have some ceramic strat pickups from a Korean Squier lying around somewhere. That'll kick some life into this thing.

In fact, I'd trade the whole thing for a decent Epiphone with some Rios.

[Litcrit]

Originally Posted by 58plaintopRI

LitCrit: Have you ever installed one of these veneers? I would like to get one for my ES-333. On my guitar, the inlay really doesn't look like a sticker, it does look like it goes into the wood, but I've never seen how the veneers are constructed.

No, I haven't but my friend has and I've seen the end result which if done right can look pretty darn good...

There's a German guy on ebay who sells them..