Which Historic model is most accurate to the real deal? - Page 2

Sui_City · 07-17-10, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Trans-Am

LOL!!

The 2K7 is coming folks!!

+1

Peace!!

Is there a particular reason you find this amusing?

Not being snarky, just genuinely interested.

mojojim · 07-18-10, 04:17 PM

I have a 2009 R9 made, I think around the time of the pearly's
it sounds like

this and a bit of fun local vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW2z9bsMCHk

and looks like , very inspiring guitar

sharq attaq · 07-18-10, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RUFFCUT

....but if the goal here is to have the best chance to recreate the holy grail guitar that all of us "burstaholics" lust after, doesn't it make sense to start as close as possible to the original specs?

you consider yourself a "bursaholic"?

not me.

I don't own a burst...have never owned a burst. The closest I've ever come to playing a burst is a '57 goldtop.

Maybe "lustaholic" would be a more appropriate term. Unless you actually do own or have owned bursts. But then, why would you be worried about the rabid need to find a burst within a RI?

RUFFCUT · 07-19-10, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by sharq attaq

you consider yourself a "bursaholic"?

not me.

I don't own a burst...have never owned a burst. The closest I've ever come to playing a burst is a '57 goldtop.

Maybe "lustaholic" would be a more appropriate term. Unless you actually do own or have owned bursts. But then, why would you be worried about the rabid need to find a burst within a RI?

Duly noted, henceforth "lustaholic" it is.......peace.......or maybe "historiholic".......I did once shake the hand of a man who's wife's best friend's husband's brother played an original burst.......does that count?

sharq attaq · 07-19-10, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RUFFCUT

Duly noted, henceforth "lustaholic" it is.......peace.......or maybe "historiholic".......I did once shake the hand of a man who's wife's best friend's husband's brother played an original burst.......does that count?

NO!

P.K.C. · 07-19-10, 05:52 PM

Mojojim....Great guitar and great playing.

v-verb · 07-19-10, 06:39 PM

Have had 2 conversions, and was blown away by a Murphy Pearly Gates. Most gorgeous Lester I've ever seen, and the relic job was pretty excellent as well

GoldCup · 07-20-10, 02:48 PM

Geez, tough crowd around here.

I should clarify that I would never purchase an instrument based on specs alone. Tone, feel, sound, playability, harmonics, sustain, and resonance are all automatic selection criteria for me. Ideally, I'd like to find a Historic that's every bit as good, if not better than my '68. Realistically, if I can find one that can come close, I'd be happy. My '68 has tone in spades and along with a friends '56 are my frames of reference for great LP's.

Scott Lentz · 07-21-10, 09:02 AM

Tough crowd, you think? It’s just that their use to a certain dialogue that does not include anything that has not been cleared, by the Forum elite.
What about trying to find another guitar the same vintage as yours? In the long run, the cost would be deferred by not buying this stuff and being disappointed 10 minutes after you bought it.

bluesforstevie · 07-21-10, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by RUFFCUT

This is my 2010 R9. It's from a limited run for G.C. (Burst Brothers). B9 00XX serial no. Specs are said to be as close to original as ever. Not sure about that, never played one, but this is a great guitar. Definitely different than pre '09's...

This is the BEST Historic I have seen in years...oh my!!!! Very vintage looking. How much does she weigh? Any name? If you EVER are thinking of selling her, please....PLEASE let me know!!!!!

Do you have more pics? I want to see MANY, many pics of this one!!!!

RUFFCUT · 07-21-10, 11:26 AM

bluesforstevie, thanks for the kind words. Here's another pic, plus a couple of her sibling....

RUFFCUT · 07-21-10, 01:03 PM

Sorry, l did say, a "couple" of her sibling...

D'Mule · 07-21-10, 03:27 PM

I don't think there are too many cases where one buys a Gibson LP historic, and 10 minutes later is disappointed. These are generally wonderful guitars that the vast majority are proud to own and play. I personally think Gibson Custom should be proud of the guitars it is building.

No doubt, many specs no longer hold true to the original 50's guitars. So if specs are your primary concern (since you already have a fine '60s LP guitar), then you probably should look into a '50s conversion or reputable third party replica.

GoldCup · 07-21-10, 06:04 PM

Not literally a tough crowd; I'm just speaking tongue in cheek. Your comment made me chuckle though.

Regarding purchasing a guitar of the same vintage, it would be nice to find a 68 Gold Top that's been converted, with care and competance, to humbuckers. If I can find that for $4K or less and it has the tone and playability I'm looking for, I'll take it. Not likely in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Scott Lentz

Tough crowd, you think? It’s just that their use to a certain dialogue that does not include anything that has not been cleared, by the Forum elite.
What about trying to find another guitar the same vintage as yours? In the long run, the cost would be deferred by not buying this stuff and being disappointed 10 minutes after you bought it.

GoldCup · 07-21-10, 06:05 PM

That's what I'm looking for right there!!!! Beautiful instrument, well done!

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Originally Posted by bluesforstevie

This is the BEST Historic I have seen in years...oh my!!!! Very vintage looking. How much does she weigh? Any name? If you EVER are thinking of selling her, please....PLEASE let me know!!!!!

Do you have more pics? I want to see MANY, many pics of this one!!!!

RUFFCUT · 07-22-10, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldCup

That's what I'm looking for right there!!!! Beautiful instrument, well done!

I believe there were about 40 total built in this run. As of today 5 still show to be available, if you decide to go that direction. Good luck with whatever you choose........

GoldCup · 07-26-10, 11:23 AM

Thanks for all of your replies, it is greatly appreciated! The search continues.

jimmyace2006 · 07-27-10, 08:26 PM

These!

http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/hist...re-guitar.html

cooljuk · 07-28-10, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmyace2006

These!

http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/hist...re-guitar.html

it's as if that figure (on the left one) is "smiling" at me!

Base6 · 07-28-10, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by cooljuk

it's as if that figure (on the left one) is "smiling" at me!

Funny to see it now ( 9 91885).... I almost bought it before you from Wildwood. Gorgeous guitar!

jimmyace2006 · 07-28-10, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Base6

Funny to see it now ( 9 91885).... I almost bought it before you from Wildwood. Gorgeous guitar!

Yeah, when I saw it posted on their site I could not believe it had not sold. I picked up the phone and bought it on the spot. It has obviously had a few changes. It is a great player. And it is still minty clean other than the mods.

Steve Craw · 07-28-10, 12:03 PM

Mine! She's an R6 from 2007, that I sent to Gord Miller in Canada for a refin and relic. She's wearing 50s': pickups, bridge, pots and caps, pickguard, knobs, jackplate, tuners, really everything but pokerchip and backplates. Also, had the neck reshaped to the same profile as a friend's 52 goldtop. And yes, she's left handed!

Steve Craw · 07-28-10, 12:05 PM

I had Gord move the "Gibson" inlay to the proper location on the headstock.

Steve Craw · 07-28-10, 12:06 PM

Inlays are from Buzzy.

Steve Craw · 07-28-10, 12:08 PM

Rare, original 52/53 lefty pickguard, that I concider the ultimate prize. How many of these could be floating around out there.

Steve Craw · 07-28-10, 12:09 PM

1956 Kluson tuners. Thanks, Burstmeup!

Raw Materials · 07-29-10, 12:43 PM

Really nice fiddle Steve!

GoldCup · 07-29-10, 02:26 PM

Agreed; wow, just wow. Me want.

Luv this stuff.

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Originally Posted by cooljuk

it's as if that figure (on the left one) is "smiling" at me!

ptrickamp222 · 07-30-10, 07:42 PM

They're the only one's I own so they are the one's........

The last one is my Bro's.....Great Spec's and Tone!!!

..........

...........

TM1 · 07-30-10, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Craw

Mine! She's an R6 from 2007, that I sent to Gord Miller in Canada for a refin and relic. She's wearing 50s': pickups, bridge, pots and caps, pickguard, knobs, jackplate, tuners, really everything but pokerchip and backplates. Also, had the neck reshaped to the same profile as a friend's 52 goldtop. And yes, she's left handed!

Holy shit...!! That's amazing Steve!! Cheers mate!

Steve Craw · 07-31-10, 03:12 AM

Thanks TM1.

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07-18-10, 04:17 PM	#42
mojojim Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: South Wales Posts: 38	Re: Which Historic model is most accurate to the real deal? I have a 2009 R9 made, I think around the time of the pearly's it sounds like this and a bit of fun local vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW2z9bsMCHk and looks like , very inspiring guitar __________________ mojojim Miss Honeybella 2009 R9 The Babe ES135 Marshall JCM Rivera Mojojim & the Muddy Wulfs

07-19-10, 05:52 PM	#46
P.K.C. Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 60	Re: Which Historic model is most accurate to the real deal? Mojojim....Great guitar and great playing.

07-19-10, 06:39 PM	#47
v-verb Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 1,279	Re: Which Historic model is most accurate to the real deal? Have had 2 conversions, and was blown away by a Murphy Pearly Gates. Most gorgeous Lester I've ever seen, and the relic job was pretty excellent as well

07-20-10, 02:48 PM	#48
GoldCup Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 25	Re: Which Historic model is most accurate to the real deal? Geez, tough crowd around here. I should clarify that I would never purchase an instrument based on specs alone. Tone, feel, sound, playability, harmonics, sustain, and resonance are all automatic selection criteria for me. Ideally, I'd like to find a Historic that's every bit as good, if not better than my '68. Realistically, if I can find one that can come close, I'd be happy. My '68 has tone in spades and along with a friends '56 are my frames of reference for great LP's.

07-21-10, 09:02 AM	#49
Scott Lentz Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: San Marcos, Ca. Posts: 516	Re: Which Historic model is most accurate to the real deal? Tough crowd, you think? It’s just that their use to a certain dialogue that does not include anything that has not been cleared, by the Forum elite. What about trying to find another guitar the same vintage as yours? In the long run, the cost would be deferred by not buying this stuff and being disappointed 10 minutes after you bought it. __________________ www.lentzguitar.com

07-21-10, 11:26 AM	#51
RUFFCUT Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 147	Re: Which Historic model is most accurate to the real deal? bluesforstevie, thanks for the kind words. Here's another pic, plus a couple of her sibling.... Last edited by RUFFCUT : 07-21-10 at 11:52 AM.

07-21-10, 01:03 PM	#52
RUFFCUT Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 147	Re: Which Historic model is most accurate to the real deal? Sorry, l did say, a "couple" of her sibling...

07-21-10, 03:27 PM	#53
D'Mule Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota Posts: 3,470	Re: Which Historic model is most accurate to the real deal? I don't think there are too many cases where one buys a Gibson LP historic, and 10 minutes later is disappointed. These are generally wonderful guitars that the vast majority are proud to own and play. I personally think Gibson Custom should be proud of the guitars it is building. No doubt, many specs no longer hold true to the original 50's guitars. So if specs are your primary concern (since you already have a fine '60s LP guitar), then you probably should look into a '50s conversion or reputable third party replica. __________________ '02 Gibson LP '58 CA RI '05 Gibson LP '54 RI '06 Gibson LP '58 VOS RI '94 Gibson LP CS Standard '07 Gibson LP Vintage Mahogany '96 Fender Stratocaster '57 AVRI '01 Fender Telecaster 50's Classic RI '92 Washburn D17SCE V Series V1512 Combo (2xEL84/Weber Bluedog) '65 Fender Bandmaster Head (2x6L6GC) #698 THD Univalve Head (1x6L6GC) 5F1A Tweed Champ Combo (1x6V6GT/Weber 10A125) Crate V33 Head (4xEL84) with SLO Mod Weber ToreVibe with Micro-Amp Mod (1x12AX7)

07-26-10, 11:23 AM	#57
GoldCup Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 25	Re: Which Historic model is most accurate to the real deal? Thanks for all of your replies, it is greatly appreciated! The search continues.

07-27-10, 08:26 PM	#58
jimmyace2006 Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 675	Re: Which Historic model is most accurate to the real deal? These! http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/hist...re-guitar.html

07-28-10, 12:03 PM	#62
Steve Craw Formerly Lefty Elmo Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 2,590	Re: Which Historic model is most accurate to the real deal? Mine! She's an R6 from 2007, that I sent to Gord Miller in Canada for a refin and relic. She's wearing 50s': pickups, bridge, pots and caps, pickguard, knobs, jackplate, tuners, really everything but pokerchip and backplates. Also, had the neck reshaped to the same profile as a friend's 52 goldtop. And yes, she's left handed! __________________ Elmo has left the building! RIP, Elmo 1996-2008. Please check out my new band, The Highway Jones Band at:http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...ndid=162271602 Last edited by Steve Craw : 07-28-10 at 03:06 PM.

07-28-10, 12:05 PM	#63
Steve Craw Formerly Lefty Elmo Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 2,590	Re: Which Historic model is most accurate to the real deal? I had Gord move the "Gibson" inlay to the proper location on the headstock. __________________ Elmo has left the building! RIP, Elmo 1996-2008. Please check out my new band, The Highway Jones Band at:http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...ndid=162271602

07-28-10, 12:06 PM	#64
Steve Craw Formerly Lefty Elmo Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 2,590	Re: Which Historic model is most accurate to the real deal? Inlays are from Buzzy. __________________ Elmo has left the building! RIP, Elmo 1996-2008. Please check out my new band, The Highway Jones Band at:http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...ndid=162271602

07-28-10, 12:08 PM	#65
Steve Craw Formerly Lefty Elmo Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 2,590	Re: Which Historic model is most accurate to the real deal? Rare, original 52/53 lefty pickguard, that I concider the ultimate prize. How many of these could be floating around out there. __________________ Elmo has left the building! RIP, Elmo 1996-2008. Please check out my new band, The Highway Jones Band at:http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...ndid=162271602

07-28-10, 12:09 PM	#66
Steve Craw Formerly Lefty Elmo Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 2,590	Re: Which Historic model is most accurate to the real deal? 1956 Kluson tuners. Thanks, Burstmeup! __________________ Elmo has left the building! RIP, Elmo 1996-2008. Please check out my new band, The Highway Jones Band at:http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...ndid=162271602

07-29-10, 12:43 PM	#67
Raw Materials Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Plainfield, Illinois Posts: 230	Re: Which Historic model is most accurate to the real deal? Really nice fiddle Steve!

07-30-10, 07:42 PM	#69
ptrickamp222 Les Paul Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 726	Re: Which Historic model is most accurate to the real deal? They're the only one's I own so they are the one's........ The last one is my Bro's.....Great Spec's and Tone!!! .......... ........... __________________ _________________________________ 07' 59 VOS FTobacco/BB#2/Fralin 9.2K Bridge 05' 62 LP/SG CA./ WCR Fillmores 05' LP Spec-Single Cut-TV/ Fralin P-90's 1960 LP Jr. Double-Cut/The Real Deal Won't Count the Strat........ 52'TeleButterScotch/CustomNeck/FralinBridge

07-31-10, 03:12 AM	#71
Steve Craw Formerly Lefty Elmo Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 2,590	Re: Which Historic model is most accurate to the real deal? Thanks TM1. __________________ Elmo has left the building! RIP, Elmo 1996-2008. Please check out my new band, The Highway Jones Band at:http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...ndid=162271602