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I don't have a bunch of guitars or money to buy guitars; but my hobby is to predict what's going be hot soon in the vintage community. This year it's going to be "walnut" Gibsons.
Hmmm...okay. Was never a fan of walnut Gibsons, whether SGs or ESs or whatever.
Will be interesting to see if you're right.
p.s. What was your prediction for what was going to be hot in 2016?
Very true. I guess the barometer is Joe Bonamassa now; and he collects EVERYTHING!
Look forward to seeing Joe playing a 70s walnut 335 this year. He'd sound brilliant playing the worst Norlin dog anyway!!
Look forward to seeing Joe playing a 70s walnut 335 this year. He'd sound brilliant playing the worst Norlin dog anyway!!
Naw...he NEEDS a 1972 Les Paul Deluxe, tomato soup non-book matched plain as vanilla top, sandwich body, laminated neck weighing 11lbs featuring those nasty mini hum buckers...
I don't have a bunch of guitars or money to buy guitars; but my hobby is to predict what's going be hot soon in the vintage community. This year it's going to be "walnut" Gibsons.
Careful there, dude...there may be actual "rock stars" about...:dude::dude::dude::biggrin:The answer used to be, "Whatever guitar the next rock star is playing", but we don't have rock stars anymore. :-(
Makes sense, I used to teach at a vintage shop and witnessed countless examples of dudes dogging a 70's guitar without touching one, then I'd plug it in for fun and the big mouths wouldn't be so big for the next minute or two.
A good player can make music from a piece of crap guitar, on that we agree.
I saved up, two years of paper route, babysitting, and carrying golf bags (doubles, two rounds Saturday and one on Sunday) to buy a 1972 LP Deluxe in 1972...piece of very heavy/dead/over finished junk, was 13 and didn't know better. It was made better when I installed some 1956 P90s from a GT that was converted to PAFs after owning it for a year, killed some of the innate nasty shrillness. Still have it, never play it...because have several pre-Norlin Gibsons that put it to shame.
You might be tone deaf if you can't hear the difference and/or be a great player that can make music from a turd. Then again there may be some nice examples that Norlin didn't mess up...I have never played one that I thought was special, but I'm sure they must exist.
Duaneflowers - When did you buy them?
Own/owned about 35 vintage pre Norlin and pre CBS guitars...almost all worth @ 3 to 4 times what I paid for them, but almost all were purchased before the Clapton auction in 1999, which brought investor/non-player attention to the vintage guitar market in size.
Post crash (2008) there was a significant drop in values and thereafter little price appreciation. The dealers I have know for decades say to a person that the vintage market is as slow as it has ever been in US. High dollar has had an impact and the aging of the baby boom has created sellers who once were the key buyers.
I think there is a huge difference between "Doesn't work for me" and...."Turd" or "Crappy" etc. I've seen and experienced it too many times. Yet lots of people just have that mentality if they can't embrace a guitar's quirks said guitars must be awful en masse.
Agree that every instrument has to be evaluated independently on it s own terms. May be some great Norlin era Gibsons; a good buddy loves his recently acquired 1969 Super 400...though, I believe that Norlin cost cutters/engineers did less immediate damage to Gibson archtop department.
Then there is the fact that one man's dog is another's dream instrument...thinking about the 1980s "super Strats" many with very heavy maple bodies, Floyd Rosed and EMG pickups (think Valley Arts)...played by many high profile pros in the day. Different strokes.
2. Then there are the minihumbucker pickups that came on a lot of 70's LP's, and well - they just don't sound like a proper humbucker, so imagine you are a 70's kid who has seen your idol play an LP and getting "that" sound from it and then spend your hard earned money on a real Gibson (!), and discover that it sounds like a cross between a strat and a P-90 only with more treble... First thing you do if you are smart enough to know what's going on is obviously to route it to put full size humbuckers in there, and if not, well, a couple of decades later you remember 70's LP's as being shrill and trebly...